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Sep 1 2007 11:10am
Quote (Coxukr @ Sat, Sep 1 2007, 11:48am)
lol first of all. wwzins are a joke vs wolf.
Foher's are a complete joke cus they foh so damn slow, giving you time to morph back & hitting them before they foh you again - you can keep on like this forever
Boners - your faster than their crappy bone walls, aim for their summons not them, you'll eventually hit them in the midst of a fury when they tele around
WW barbs - you can kill them smile.gif
Chargers - mb helps a lot - 1 fury they're practically kissing akara
Smiters --- well they're the kings of meelee no doubt so your right there, a very skilled smiter - your dead
Hammerdins - just one foot away & they'll miss
Trapsins - Just run around them and avoid the goddamn mb, that's what the frw gear is there for
Sorcs - easy to dodge all shit they throw at you, they'll get annoyed and get closer - wham they're dead


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Quote (Coxukr @ Sat, Sep 1 2007, 04:48pm)
lol first of all. wwzins are a joke vs wolf.
Foher's are a complete joke cus they foh so damn slow, giving you time to morph back & hitting them before they foh you again - you can keep on like this forever
Boners - your faster than their crappy bone walls, aim for their summons not them, you'll eventually hit them in the midst of a fury when they tele around
WW barbs - you can kill them smile.gif
Chargers - mb helps a lot - 1 fury they're practically kissing akara
Smiters --- well they're the kings of meelee no doubt so your right there, a very skilled smiter - your dead
Hammerdins - just one foot away & they'll miss
Trapsins - Just run around them and avoid the goddamn mb, that's what the frw gear is there for
Sorcs - easy to dodge all shit they throw at you, they'll get annoyed and get closer - wham they're dead


since when is a clueless newbie who thinks outside ias works with fury entitled to an opinion?
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Sep 1 2007 01:26pm
Quote (Coxukr @ Sat, Sep 1 2007, 04:48pm)
lol first of all. wwzins are a joke vs wolf.
Foher's are a complete joke cus they foh so damn slow, giving you time to morph back & hitting them before they foh you again - you can keep on like this forever
Boners - your faster than their crappy bone walls, aim for their summons not them, you'll eventually hit them in the midst of a fury when they tele around
WW barbs - you can kill them smile.gif
Chargers - mb helps a lot - 1 fury they're practically kissing akara
Smiters --- well they're the kings of meelee no doubt so your right there, a very skilled smiter - your dead
Hammerdins - just one foot away & they'll miss
Trapsins - Just run around them and avoid the goddamn mb, that's what the frw gear is there for
Sorcs - easy to dodge all shit they throw at you, they'll get annoyed and get closer - wham they're dead


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Sep 1 2007 10:42pm
Quote (Coxukr @ Sat, Sep 1 2007, 10:48am)
lol first of all. wwzins are a joke vs wolf.
Foher's are a complete joke cus they foh so damn slow, giving you time to morph back & hitting them before they foh you again - you can keep on like this forever
Boners - your faster than their crappy bone walls, aim for their summons not them, you'll eventually hit them in the midst of a fury when they tele around
WW barbs - you can kill them smile.gif
Chargers - mb helps a lot - 1 fury they're practically kissing akara
Smiters --- well they're the kings of meelee no doubt so your right there, a very skilled smiter - your dead
Hammerdins - just one foot away & they'll miss
Trapsins - Just run around them and avoid the goddamn mb, that's what the frw gear is there for
Sorcs - easy to dodge all shit they throw at you, they'll get annoyed and get closer - wham they're dead


Lol you aren't faster than a necro's walls. They can keep spamming them and if they wanna be evil they can maiden you so you can't even get out without dying. This would be very bm in my opinion, but it would happen in pubs. You can't kill any decent ww barb sorry unless you get really lucky/and or they suck ass and ww straight through you. Pure chargers do suck, but if they weren't stupid they would have grief and shield and just charge then smite you to death so you lose there too. Smiter you won't win as you said yourself. Hammerdins won't tele on you and melees have a hard time avoiding good desynch hammerdins and lack the area of attack to actually hit hammerdins without being hit. Assns with mb are a pain in the ass for any druid regardless wolf or elemental. Sorcs well i would imagine you can absorb them to no end, but doesn't mean you can catch them either. Pure foher would be a joke, but I didn't say anything about foher i said v/t so no point there. My point is unless you duel random suck pubs from the main duel classes a fury wolf simply just won't stand a chance vs the best duelers because they lack mobility+ range of any attack.
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Quote (Bes @ Sat, Sep 1 2007, 05:10pm)
duel Zaichik on one of his sins, you'll lose 100%


he's good smile.gif

Quote (faggitor @ Sat, Sep 1 2007, 05:37pm)
since when is a clueless newbie who thinks outside ias works with fury entitled to an opinion?


well thanks for sharing your opinion, flaming noob with 20%^-^
I also don't use the outside ias for fury, I use it to boost the feral rage when need frw boost

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dumbass


thank you

Quote (aragorn44 @ Sun, Sep 2 2007, 04:42am)
Lol you aren't faster than a necro's walls.  They can keep spamming them and if they wanna be evil they can maiden you so you can't even get out without dying.  This would be very bm in my opinion, but it would happen in pubs.  You can't kill any decent ww barb sorry unless you get really lucky/and or they suck ass and ww straight through you.  Pure chargers do suck, but if they weren't stupid they would have grief and shield and just charge then smite you to death so you lose there too.  Smiter you won't win as you said yourself.  Hammerdins won't tele on you and melees have a hard time avoiding good desynch hammerdins and lack the area of attack to actually hit hammerdins without being hit.  Assns with mb are a pain in the ass for any druid regardless wolf or elemental.  Sorcs well i would imagine you can absorb them to no end, but doesn't mean you can catch them either.  Pure foher would be a joke, but I didn't say anything about foher i said v/t so no point there.  My point is unless you duel random suck pubs from the main duel classes a fury wolf simply just won't stand a chance vs the best duelers because they lack mobility+ range of any attack.


I should mention that I'm not using this build, I'm using fury/rabies. it means that if the boners spawn any summons in their bone walls, I'll hit them, they'll tele - they'll get rabies and die - I'll just have to wait & see how many spirits I can take before that.
ww barb the same - hit rabies & their life'll drop anyway if you miss while you fury.
same with all others e.t.c...
thank you all über friendly people. please read more carefully next time. I did not tell you my wolf is using this build. I just said this build looks nice.
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Sep 2 2007 05:36am
Quote (Coxukr @ Sun, Sep 2 2007, 05:02am)
I should mention that I'm not using this build, I'm using fury/rabies. it means that if the boners spawn any summons in their bone walls, I'll hit them, they'll tele - they'll get rabies and die - I'll just have to wait & see how many spirits I can take before that.
ww barb the same - hit rabies & their life'll drop anyway if you miss while you fury.
same with all others e.t.c...
thank you all über friendly people. please read more carefully next time. I did not tell you my wolf is using this build. I just said this build looks nice.


no, you're telling us you use an even worse build. the joke strats you post only works on beginners, retards and shitty duelers and only a complete newbie would believe that rabies hurts anyone with iq>70.

then again you're responsible for this:
"oh carp...
Your really telling me shaper only gets ias from wep?
*gaah* & I who have been tracking down 15/40 jewels for both the jalals & ss lol"

so your worthless opinion means nothing to anyone good at this game
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I got a little question: it says in the guide that you need 95 ias for max speed (4fps)
But tombreaver is a cryptic axe and that has a +10base speed. Then there's the 60ias on the weapon itself.
But if you want to reach 4fps the total ias on tombreaver must be 105 (95+10 to even out the +10 base) and this is impossible with zod shael shael... Or am I overlooking something?
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Quote (ReadyAimFire @ Tue, Sep 4 2007, 09:15am)
I got a little question: it says in the guide that you need 95 ias for max speed (4fps)
But tombreaver is a cryptic axe and that has a +10base speed. Then there's the 60ias on the weapon itself.
But if you want to reach 4fps the total ias on tombreaver must be 105 (95+10 to even out the +10 base) and this is impossible with zod shael shael... Or am I overlooking something?


2 15ias jewels in a reaver will give it 4 frame ias. 1hand and 2hand ias is differant.

And about the pages and pages of strategy arguments... here's my 2 cents...

A pure fury druid needs some decent frw to fight anything 1 v 1, if it does it can kill anything but a careful and quick necro.
None of you seem to think that anyone can dodge anything, I doubt I'm the only one but i've never had any trouble dodging any attacks that come from 2 screens away.
I guess I'll address all the characters mentioned, or the ones i recall.

smiter... the smiter does tons of damage and can't be blocked sure... tombreaver it will be difficult and all... but you can kill him in 1 hit if you're any good, even if he has around 5k life. and he's sure not gonna kill you in 1 hit. I wouldn't reccommend a tomb reaver anyway, there are much more effective means but wel I don't liek to share.

windy, 50% dr + max block and the ability to heal off his minions = 1 dead windy, again it's very easy to run around dodging those nados till you hit him.

wwbarb, will be tough if he only ww's away, you have to move quick and very carefully, but i'd say it's about an even chance if you're skilled enough, depends on the gear and build then.

hammerdin desynch or not, easy as cake, if you know what to do. for 1 thing if they tele on you they die period, if they desynch around stand in a corner where there hammers can't hit you unless they tele on you.
either way a hammerdin can't be aggressive enough to kill the tank your fury should be

any elemental character.. sorb, gd.

wwsin, they don't do much damage and they die like a clay doll

trapper, sorb, gd and no mb isn't gonna lock you with 86fhr unless they're fire trapper, then sorb, gd you'll hit them eventually

hybrid fire trapper.... ummm... juvs work well? ok you got me these are tough but traps can be dodged liek anythign else and their ww isn't exactly gonna kill you quickly, just gotta tank long enough to get them

then there's the necro.... you can dodge all it's attacks, unless he boneprisons you, the you gotta kill the prisons, but if he ims you in hell you kill yourself... i suggst you don't duel them in hell lol
if it isn't in hell thoguh you can get him by dodgeing and chasing, dodging and chasing


But regardless of how great the fury druid is and all, I would not make a pure fury for dva ever. I would make a rabies/fury
and not that shitty ass 35k rabies build
80k rabies and fury
I have never seen a build or character that can stand a chance against my old rabies/fury
all you have to do is hit them or 1 of their minions once an the fight is over, plus you're a tank, and if they try and be aggressive while the rabies is killign them fury ends it even quicker.
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Quote (MyEnemy @ Tue, 4 Sep 2007, 17:52)
2 15ias jewels in a reaver will give it 4 frame ias. 1hand and 2hand ias is differant.

And about the pages and pages of strategy arguments... here's my 2 cents...

A pure fury druid needs some decent frw to fight anything 1 v 1, if it does it can kill anything but a careful and quick necro.
None of you seem to think that anyone can dodge anything, I doubt I'm the only one but i've never had any trouble dodging any attacks that come from 2 screens away.
I guess I'll address all the characters mentioned, or the ones i recall.

smiter... the smiter does tons of damage and can't be blocked sure... tombreaver it will be difficult and all... but you can kill him in 1 hit if you're any good, even if he has around 5k life. and he's sure not gonna kill you in 1 hit.  I wouldn't reccommend a tomb reaver anyway, there are much more effective means but wel I don't liek to share.

windy, 50% dr + max block and the ability to heal off his minions = 1 dead windy, again it's very easy to run around dodging those nados till you hit him.

wwbarb, will be tough if he only ww's away, you have to move quick and very carefully, but i'd say it's about an even chance if you're skilled enough, depends on the gear and build then.

hammerdin desynch or not, easy as cake, if you know what to do. for 1 thing if they tele on you they die period, if they desynch around stand in a corner where there hammers can't hit you unless they tele on you.
either way a hammerdin can't be aggressive enough to kill the tank your fury should be

any elemental character.. sorb, gd.

wwsin, they don't do much damage and they die like a clay doll

trapper, sorb, gd and no mb isn't gonna lock you with 86fhr unless they're fire trapper, then sorb, gd you'll hit them eventually

hybrid fire trapper.... ummm... juvs work well? ok you got me these are tough but traps can be dodged liek anythign else and their ww isn't exactly gonna kill you quickly, just gotta tank long enough to get them

then there's the necro.... you can dodge all it's attacks, unless he boneprisons you, the you gotta kill the prisons, but if he ims you in hell you kill yourself... i suggst you don't duel them in hell lol
if it isn't in hell thoguh you can get him by dodgeing and chasing, dodging and chasing


But regardless of how great the fury druid is and all, I would not make a pure fury for dva ever. I would make a rabies/fury
and not that shitty ass 35k rabies build
80k rabies and fury
I have never seen a build or character that can stand a chance against my old rabies/fury
all you have to do is hit them or 1 of their minions once an the fight is over, plus you're a tank, and if they try and be aggressive while the rabies is killign them fury ends it even quicker.


ok so your damage is 60k? if you're able to kill a 5k life smiter in one hit.
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Sep 4 2007 09:32am
Quote (MyEnemy @ Tue, Sep 4 2007, 02:52pm)
2 15ias jewels in a reaver will give it 4 frame ias. 1hand and 2hand ias is differant.

And about the pages and pages of strategy arguments... here's my 2 cents...

A pure fury druid needs some decent frw to fight anything 1 v 1, if it does it can kill anything but a careful and quick necro.
None of you seem to think that anyone can dodge anything, I doubt I'm the only one but i've never had any trouble dodging any attacks that come from 2 screens away.
I guess I'll address all the characters mentioned, or the ones i recall.

smiter... the smiter does tons of damage and can't be blocked sure... tombreaver it will be difficult and all... but you can kill him in 1 hit if you're any good, even if he has around 5k life. and he's sure not gonna kill you in 1 hit. I wouldn't reccommend a tomb reaver anyway, there are much more effective means but wel I don't liek to share.

windy, 50% dr + max block and the ability to heal off his minions = 1 dead windy, again it's very easy to run around dodging those nados till you hit him.

wwbarb, will be tough if he only ww's away, you have to move quick and very carefully, but i'd say it's about an even chance if you're skilled enough, depends on the gear and build then.

hammerdin desynch or not, easy as cake, if you know what to do. for 1 thing if they tele on you they die period, if they desynch around stand in a corner where there hammers can't hit you unless they tele on you.
either way a hammerdin can't be aggressive enough to kill the tank your fury should be

any elemental character.. sorb, gd.

wwsin, they don't do much damage and they die like a clay doll

trapper, sorb, gd and no mb isn't gonna lock you with 86fhr unless they're fire trapper, then sorb, gd you'll hit them eventually

hybrid fire trapper.... ummm... juvs work well? ok you got me these are tough but traps can be dodged liek anythign else and their ww isn't exactly gonna kill you quickly, just gotta tank long enough to get them

then there's the necro.... you can dodge all it's attacks, unless he boneprisons you, the you gotta kill the prisons, but if he ims you in hell you kill yourself... i suggst you don't duel them in hell lol
if it isn't in hell thoguh you can get him by dodgeing and chasing, dodging and chasing


But regardless of how great the fury druid is and all, I would not make a pure fury for dva ever. I would make a rabies/fury
and not that shitty ass 35k rabies build
80k rabies and fury
I have never seen a build or character that can stand a chance against my old rabies/fury
all you have to do is hit them or 1 of their minions once an the fight is over, plus you're a tank, and if they try and be aggressive while the rabies is killign them fury ends it even quicker.


All of you freaks seem to exaggerate fury druid's killing ability A LOT. To be honest, the only non retarded opponents you'll be able to kill are ele druids, javazons, bowzons, non shield barbarians (hard as hell but doable), wwsins. That's it pretty much.. ofc I'm not counting these melee weaklings like conc barbs who are just too dumb to kill anything that has brain activity.
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