1: No, But ravenfrost is still very good for min/max, Any class who uses AR and doesn't have CBF yet should use one. Truthfully I only ever got slowed by HF which cbf doesn't help anyways. But some zons use 2x Ravens. I wouldn't use anything else unless it had 9 min dmg 100+ ar and 14-20 dex
2: It's one of the best investments. It makes Diablo much, much easier to kill. you don't NEED it, but you also don't NEED anything else you can place points in. My zon had 18 hard points for a level 27 Valkyrie with harmony switch.

LOL. I would be very interesting to know how ANYONE can suvive a 1 hit kill.


i laughed out loud :-D

this zon is not good for a hardcore build.

So what build should I have in hardcore?

Nice guide ImO... but some suggestions/things open for discussion:

In general on WF Zons

1. A2 Might-Merc + Pride @ 9 frames will do more Dmg over time than A1 Rogue @7 frames with Fana... should mention this.

2. When you use Atma's to trigger Amp you will generallly rely on strafe instead of multi again this would be an argument in favor of an A2 Merc, because you don't rly need Fana to reach Strafe's last BP. If you multi a lot, use HL's instead of Atma's.


On this guide:

1. Wartravelers are a no-brainer and not debatable on a PvM Zon.

2. If you use Harmony on switch anyways... there is no real sense in FRW charms... create a "true" glass cannon then and recommend Max Dam / AR / Dex Medium charms.

3. Andy's is nice, but one could as well use a decent Circlet (3sox/Dex) with the more than common 40/15 Jools here...

This build does quite nicely for Hardcore. I have this char @lvl 89. She's by no means the safest build out there, but if you strafe check for monsters off the screen, use the valk, replace your decoy's you'll be just fine.

An excellent build and guide. Thanks Krem


for the ring question, I use 1 ravenfrost , 1 wisp. I find that a bowzon is one of the only builds that can use those Oak/how charges without it dying all the time. I almost always have HOW out. The only place it's pointless is around souls. IIRC it adds about 45% damage and some ar. A nice little boost, an extra meatshield albeit an expensive one, and it has a cool aura effect on your character and merc and valk. The Sorb however is priceless.

For my switch I use Lacerator. Strafing something at the edge of your screen, while hitting "W" real fast allows the mid-flight arrows to proc AMP from Lacerator. For bosses this is exspecially nice. I know Harmony is handy, but I'll take AMP over run speed any day. This frees up your ammy slot for Cateye or Highlords. It's also more reliable.

These however Are more playstyle preferences.

This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Oct 22 2009 04:43pm

Only thing i want to know what to use of those skills (ga,strafe,multi) and is it possible to put some skills in all and get good ama anyway

i'm planing to make "all-around-ama"

if i want to go multi shot, what gear would i use instead of what is listeD?

cant be upped

Why not?