I heard that if you have different ranges on psn scs and such...they cancel out and just coun the highest amount? is this true? and im furious... i didnt think for a guide.. so i remade sin and put max dragon flight >,< max cloaks --lmao uh venom and a lil into bos - that bad of a move?? oh and into shadow master....

plus for gear i was using 120/45 ias lw crystal sword fort, and the rest.. mart gloves too... well...ill try this char out tonight..most likely ill be remaking with this build cuz its just kick ass

This post was edited by frosty12 on Sep 3 2007 12:39pm

Nice guide, I am definitely making one soon. But, is there any cheap weapon alternative to LW ? Maybe armor too ? I dont have any HR to mess around with.

I'v never made a sin so if im wrong just ignore me

wouldnt it be better to use fade instead of BoS? im pretty sure you could still hit the ias bp and fade would give you more res and dr, saving on a few other items

I just had an idea.
Disregarding that this is a pvm guide...
What if you had a defensive mercenary from the nightmare difficulty equiped with a pride polearm...
Dragon Flight someone and they'll have a heck of a time recovering, amirite? (If they're not already dead, of course.)
=D

This post was edited by Teuflisch on Oct 11 2007 05:40pm

i didnt see how you get 50dr with this build??
im using all the equip and have 43%...

i think that andy visage is grate choice too, 20ias + bos can give max fps u need and 30str give moore dmg

if u need eqip for ww or kick look hire: http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=13081499&f=54&st=0#entry70941754

wow, that's really an amazingly bad suggestion.

no mercs in gm pvp
most kick damage comes from venom in pvp
dflight is slow as hell
kickers aren't pvpers

no.

i like it

I'm building a kicksin for PvM atm and here's how my skills are going:
20 d-talon
20 shadow master
20 fade
1 mind blast
1 death sentry

I was curious if when it says BASE weapon speed...does that mean anything before sockets? Or will a 6x shael'ed DB or PB make it faster? I'm lvl 52 and using a 6 shael'ed DB and it seems faster than anything else I"ve used.

Also, what's a decent weapon?

7/3/3/.. is the fastest dtalon speed. a 6 shael phase blade is going to overshoot the bp by far, wasted ias and bad kicking weapon.
its more important that the kicking weapon has useful mods, you can get 7/3 kick speed with different setups, dont compromise your weapon slot for something as useless as a 6shael phase.

weapons you should consider for a pvm kicker:
Stormlash Jah'd <- imo best overall pvm kicksin weapon
Stormlash Shael'd <- 8/3 kicks on fade
Lastwish Phase <- weapon used by trist kicksins, not as good for overall pvm as stormlash imo, good for a build intending to just trist
Crescent moon Phase <- very underrated weapon, gg for pvm for its low price
Fleshripper <- staple kicksin weapon, more a pvp weapon, makes for decent pvm as well, although not as good as stormlash or crescent moon for pvm
Black flail <- if you are really poor, this will take you through the game

ias required for different weapons is based on base weapon speed, your ias% amount on equipment, and the level of BoS. (or lack thereof if you use fade) BoS makes bps a lot easier to obtain, imo fade is only useful for tristing, a BoS build works better for overall pvm.
For explainations to all assassin bps read this:
http://e.domaindlx.com/JRichard/D2/aas22/
For breakpoint charts for dtalon read this:
http://e.domaindlx.com/JRichard/D2/aas22/Tables/Kicks/dtalon.html
To find base weapon speeds read this:
http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/weaponsandarmor.shtml