no, 1 point volcano will do nothing. A shaman isn't just using it to fhr/fbr lock people, thats merely a perk. Its one of his main sources of damage
With only 1 point, it will still proc FBR, but never ever FHR, which will interrupt people about as well as a 5 second cooldown psychic hammer would

you mean wwsins, not trappers. wwsins are what nado druids fear most 1v1.

nado vs trap is far from unwinnable..
of course the matchup is in trappers advantage, but the matchup is based on player skill. very possible for nado to win if they outplay the trapper.

Ya, druid is utterly useless against WWsins. I try my best to l8z whore it up but it never works good enough.

c/c low fcr low mb damage light trappers vs a windy with mb, and no venom/kicks, sure
but we gotta be realistic here; you get trappers/hybrids/etc all lumped into the same thing, and even the worst c/c slow trappers still have advantage over the windy


*then again*, I have been spoiled by playing exclusively fire trappers over light trappers, using level 46 mind blast, and 174% fcr w/s
all of which persecute druids even more. But clearly trappers have the advantage over druids, even without all that nonsense. Like you said its not unwinnable at those levels, but against something like my setup, yes it is unwinnable :x but thats me being spoiled by my char designs, I suppose.

This post was edited by deathwinger on Aug 11 2009 06:54pm

ya doesn't matter if you l8z your heart out. vroom vroom dead druid.


I gotta say though, fissure/volcano vs trap is pretty fun. different from nado vs trap. not too hard I'd say, beat up a lot of trappers good and bad with volcano druid.

nope.
quick namelock + telenado + wsg walk + peace nigga > slow trappers

also hard to keep pressure on a druid while not putting yourself in danger if they know how to wsg walk out of traps very well.


edit: remember, traps have startup time before they shoot.
of course personally I win vs druids all the time, but I don't think of myself as the rule. its not an unwinnable matchup vs most players.

This post was edited by Ziecheik on Aug 11 2009 06:58pm

definitely ziecheik. Its one of the main false assumptions people make about shamans
trappers work so great against windies because they need to get in range, whereas fissure can duel just like a blizz sorc against them, which isn't an impossible duel.

Lately on useast against some of the better pure trappers, I've found myself taking some of your tricks that you've been talking about and literally teleporting into trappers, and just dropping a single volcano and WSG'ing around. The trappers all get their knickers in a twist to try to namelock mind blast me to death, but with a volcano under their butt they're getting burned faster than I am, because I'll be wsg dodging the traps. Sometimes if I'm lucky, my bear won't be MB'd and will walk up and smack them once or twice. Sure I could duel safer by just pecking away with fissures/volcanos, but tanking them like that ends duels much faster. I've died to a lot of hybridsins I mistook as trappers, tho :x


Yep, which is why I lead with 174% fcr mind blasts nonstop. I've been known to just get them against a wall and take 1/3 of their hp as they have to WSG 3 screens away lols, not even bothering to use traps.

This post was edited by deathwinger on Aug 11 2009 07:01pm

yy using mb is acceptable form of damage vs druids, Ive done that a lot. but that also says a lot for how good wsg walking is for escaping from traps, cause I would much rather end the duel quickly by hardlocking them if I could.
slower trappers can definitely get outplayed. not everyone can namelock asap, and players mess up or just get outlocked and outplayed.

yeah, you pretty much have to face the facts that the days of permanently locking people down are gone, now that everyone knows how to WSG.
I just make up for it by dumping my spare points into venom and using level 1 DT against people as they WSG out. By no means a ghost, but same principle.

I'd take 102 c/c LS over 174 w/s WoF