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Feb 18 2008 02:05pm
Quote (darcanegel @ Mon, Feb 18 2008, 08:02pm)
well imo smite and ww are obviously melee.

see my above post tho.


Everyone is entitled to their own opinion I suppose, and while I don't agree with it I have no right to tell you that you can't have it tongue.gif I would still like a real definition for melee though lol, I'm going to leave it at that, please don't say anything that requires a response from me lol I hate coming back >.<
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Feb 18 2008 02:06pm
Quote (CivicZeus @ Mon, Feb 18 2008, 10:01pm)
Our Goal is to Troll ? I havent seen you post one good opinion in this thread.


My opinion : your searching for similar characteristics to attacks so you can alienate the ones that destroy your balance. Any inteligent person would realise that the game describes all those attacks as melee. If you want to eliminate some then choose a different word for your way of dueling.
Also you are judging exclusively by what you have dueled and ignore game mechanics because you think nobody is capable of taking advantage of them. gtfo

Quote (xXxS4v4g3xXx @ Mon, Feb 18 2008, 10:02pm)
I think im making valid points, you can't have a definition that defines only a few of the melee skills, a definition must define all of them. That is a fact, and i dont see anyone telling me im wrong.

it doens't matter if anyone says anything to you ; i'm starting to think those insults a few pages back were well said

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gm melee definition = a character that goes up front to attack and stands still when attacking the other character, NOT like WW....(when you WW you move around...) + You have to have Attack Rating on the character, can't rly come up with a reason but well the rules says so... And for all confusion... A smiter doesn't have AR now does he? no didn't think so either.. so he is not counted as approved for gm melee duelling... sleep.gif

Anybody feel free to correct me if I'm totally wrong about this... but this is what I've been told by various people.. =/

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Holy fuck I read the last few pages. Can I have my three minutes back?
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Quote (xXxS4v4g3xXx @ Mon, Feb 18 2008, 08:05pm)
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion I suppose, and while I don't agree with it I have no right to tell you that you can't have it tongue.gif I would still like a real definition for melee though lol, I'm going to leave it at that, please don't say anything that requires a response from me lol I hate coming back >.<


Melee = Confused, hand-to-hand fighting in a pitched battle.

As I've said before. Technically smite and WW are melee, but in Melee leagues they aren't to create a more equal environment as most most builds aren't able to compete with a Unblockable, Uninterruptible attack, or a moving attack. In melee league terms, the standard for melees is;
Being stationary when attacking
Requiring AR to hit
Can be blocked
And then some will argue about allowing elemental damage or not.
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Quote (Bigstick @ Mon, Feb 18 2008, 10:08pm)
gm melee definition = a character that goes up front to attack and stands still when attacking the other character, NOT like WW....(when you WW you move around...) + You have to have Attack Rating on the character, can't rly come up with a reason but well the rules says so... And for all confusion... A smiter doesn't have AR now does he? no didn't think so either.. so he is not counted as approved for gm melee duelling... sleep.gif

Anybody feel free to correct me if I'm totally wrong about this... but this is what I've been told by various peoples.. =/


If you say attacks have to be stationary then you eliminate whirlwind and charge. But people still get owned by smite then so they think "why do we get owned?" : "because it requires no AR!" "let's ban that as well".

p.s. out of curiosity , in your "gm" duels is it "gm" for a zealer to flash HF aura?
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Quote (Bigstick @ Mon, Feb 18 2008, 08:08pm)
gm melee definition = a character that goes up front to attack and stands still when attacking the other character, NOT like WW....(when you WW you move around...) + You have to have Attack Rating on the character, can't rly come up with a reason but well the rules says so... And for all confusion... A smiter doesn't have AR now does he? no didn't think so either.. so he is not counted as approved for gm melee duelling... sleep.gif

Anybody feel free to correct me if I'm totally wrong about this... but this is what I've been told by various people.. =/


Thats 100% Correct.
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Quote (Shadow_lad @ Mon, Feb 18 2008, 08:14pm)
If you say attacks have to be stationary then you eliminate whirlwind and charge. But people still get owned by smite then so they think "why do we get owned?" : "because it requires no AR!" "let's ban that as well".

p.s. out of curiosity , in your "gm" duels is it "gm" for a zealer to flash HF aura?


Flashing holy freeze is bm
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Quote (CivicZeus @ Mon, Feb 18 2008, 10:15pm)
Flashing holy freeze is bm


keke , nerd duels . enjoy
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Feb 18 2008 02:17pm
Quote (Porkie @ Mon, Feb 18 2008, 08:12pm)
Melee = Confused, hand-to-hand fighting in a pitched battle.

As I've said before. Technically smite and WW are melee, but in Melee leagues they aren't to create a more equal environment as most most builds aren't able to compete with a Unblockable, Uninterruptible attack, or a moving attack. In melee league terms, the standard for melees is;
Being stationary when attacking
Requiring AR to hit
Can be blocked
And then some will argue about allowing elemental damage or not.


guess im coming back again >.< lol..where did you get that definition? I think I like my definitions better lol. Other than that I agree with everything tongue.gif


Quote (Shadow_lad @ Mon, Feb 18 2008, 08:14pm)
If you say attacks have to be stationary then you eliminate whirlwind and charge. But people still get owned by smite then so they think "why do we get owned?" : "because it requires no AR!" "let's ban that as well".

p.s. out of curiosity , in your "gm" duels is it "gm" for a zealer to flash HF aura?


The real problem I have with smite is the kb, fury druids have shit def so even if smite required ar id still get hit everytime. The reason people dont like it is because its unblockable (unlike every other melee skill).
Yes flashing HF is considered bm but feel free to use it on me, it don't effect my attack speed biggrin.gif

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