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Jun 23 2022 09:26am
Quote (JmacVenom @ 23 Jun 2022 11:20)
Thanks for the response. Do you use enigma and change out the ammy ever? Or is it just not comparable due to gold loss.

Oh yes this discussion of circlets is new at the end and the beast as well. I’ll have to see how the circlets are looking.

Would you recommend going full on BotD and fort (CoH SEEMS too high budget for my liking) then if not going for Eth ariocs? Didn’t see any dps sims linked with beasts and such to compare to but maybe they’re in there somewhere.

Thank you!


Just use maxroll links somewhere in recent posts I reckon.
Beast lets you consistently hit 6.25 hits/sec on Jab with way more DPS.

Enigma over tele ammy is fine if you don't wanna use Wealth, even though it's technically a bit worse; the 45% FRW isn't bad either. If you use Enigma I almost think you wanna use Demon Limb only & ditch Gavel to speed up & avoid repair time, as it's the main appeal of Enigma over Tele charges.

If you don't want to use Gavel, at least put some points in Zerk to break Phys Immunity.

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Jun 23 2022 10:58am
Quote (Exokek @ Jun 23 2022 11:26am)
Just use maxroll links somewhere in recent posts I reckon.
Beast lets you consistently hit 6.25 hits/sec on Jab with way more DPS.

Enigma over tele ammy is fine if you don't wanna use Wealth, even though it's technically a bit worse; the 45% FRW isn't bad either. If you use Enigma I almost think you wanna use Demon Limb only & ditch Gavel to speed up & avoid repair time, as it's the main appeal of Enigma over Tele charges.

If you don't want to use Gavel, at least put some points in Zerk to break Phys Immunity.



K looked through them. I think I’d prefer the non beast setup. So in that regard, it seems like ebotd WP vs E ariocs is still the main decision point. Were there calculators for Eth insight?

Seemingly keeping it simple and going the wealth route with GOP, is the tier list still the same as in the initial post for merc setup then?
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Jun 23 2022 11:14am
Quote (JmacVenom @ Jun 23 2022 06:58pm)
K looked through them. I think I’d prefer the non beast setup. So in that regard, it seems like ebotd WP vs E ariocs is still the main decision point. Were there calculators for Eth insight?

Seemingly keeping it simple and going the wealth route with GOP, is the tier list still the same as in the initial post for merc setup then?


I recently switched to the beast setup, if you can get your hands on one, I'd definitely suggest you use it, the difference is huge:D

Eth insight is totally viable, I had a few runs with a noneth insight, just to check if it would work, and it worked surprisingly well - guess you should go ca or thresher. I also came to really enjoy using cham'd g-face, CBF makes a huge difference, but if you don't have leech from your weapon, you definitely want Tal mask / Andy's visage
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Jun 23 2022 11:18am
Quote (Darvulat @ 23 Jun 2022 13:14)
I recently switched to the beast setup, if you can get your hands on one, I'd definitely suggest you use it, the difference is huge:D

Eth insight is totally viable, I had a few runs with a noneth insight, just to check if it would work, and it worked surprisingly well - guess you should go ca or thresher. I also came to really enjoy using cham'd g-face, CBF makes a huge difference, but if you don't have leech from your weapon, you definitely want Tal mask / Andy's visage


Yeah. If I could redo the guide I'd switch out Andy's for a 3os circlet of life leech, no doubt at all. Cham isn't mandatory but it smooths runs out a lot.

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Quote (Darvulat @ Jun 23 2022 01:14pm)
I recently switched to the beast setup, if you can get your hands on one, I'd definitely suggest you use it, the difference is huge:D

Eth insight is totally viable, I had a few runs with a noneth insight, just to check if it would work, and it worked surprisingly well - guess you should go ca or thresher. I also came to really enjoy using cham'd g-face, CBF makes a huge difference, but if you don't have leech from your weapon, you definitely want Tal mask / Andy's visage



Well there you go. Good to know. What would your ideal beast setup be then?
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Jun 23 2022 12:05pm
Quote (JmacVenom @ 23 Jun 2022 14:01)
Well there you go. Good to know. What would your ideal beast setup be then?


My favorite, but they use DIY Armors
eBOTD War Pike: https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/fq0106r3#3
Arioc's https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/fq0106r3#2

If you can't be bothered with DIY armor, you can use Fort or CoH + 3os Circlet with 2x15/40 and Cham

eBOTD GPA with 2os Circlet/CoH is probably 2nd best eBOTD for a non-GFace setup.
https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/fq0106r3#4

Simplest one to put together is GT / GFace:
https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/fq0106r3#18

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Quote (Exokek @ Jun 23 2022 08:05pm)
My favorite, but they use DIY Armors
eBOTD War Pike: https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/fq0106r3#3
Arioc's https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/fq0106r3#2

If you can't be bothered with DIY armor, you can use Fort or CoH + 3os Circlet with 2x15/40 and Cham

eBOTD GPA with 2os Circlet/CoH is probably 2nd best eBOTD for a non-GFace setup.
https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/fq0106r3#4

Simplest one to put together is GT / GFace:
https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/fq0106r3#18


u still use gavel of pain every run on these setups or only vs phys immunes ?

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u still use gavel of pain every run on these setups or only vs phys immunes ?


I still use it x1 per run at minimum usually, sometimes adding lvl 26 Battle Cry.
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I still use it x1 per run at minimum usually, sometimes adding lvl 26 Battle Cry.


okay good to know thx master exokek :hail:
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Super newb here, but was wondering if anyone has tried using a 5x Lem’d runemaster with beast and help with a bit of zerk instead of a 6lemd pb or Ali baba passively. There seems to be already a lot of moving parts so maybe killing with your merc might be a bit much since you may already be trying to manage casting amp/war cry/battle cry/howl/item find etc.

Side note: super excited to switch from the original gavel demon to using beast.

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