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Sep 17 2022 07:52am
Quote (Nataraja @ Sep 17 2022 09:08am)
What % chance to hit do y’all aim for, 25% or less?

Example: prudence sa and diadem (46k def)

23k ar for 25% chance per 5 swings or 1 zeal or 1 hit per zeal.

I’ve had extremely good success with a coa and like 17k ar using just a edc, so chance to hit seems adjustable. That is with of course -33 def at half effect so minus 16.5% def.

The damage to ar ratio seems to be adjustable but I’m not sure at what point diminishing returns take effect.


That’s a tough one. Most don’t really prioritize it since usually fools weps get lo/lo instead of eth/lo. Edc is tough to beat due to the -%def and ds% so it’s the ideal wep especially for tap outside of a very expensive fools.
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Quote (dark-soul @ Sep 17 2022 08:52am)
That’s a tough one. Most don’t really prioritize it since usually fools weps get lo/lo instead of eth/lo. Edc is tough to beat due to the -%def and ds% so it’s the ideal wep especially for tap outside of a very expensive fools.



I don’t use life tap but ya I heard edc works good, makes sense tbh.

I might aim for lower than 25%, it just depends, hard to test when your getting nkd.

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Quote (Nataraja @ Sep 17 2022 09:55am)
I don’t use life tap but ya I heard edc works good, makes sense tbh.

I might aim for lower than 25%, it just depends, hard to test when your getting nkd.


I know just mentioned it since tap has higher def so the -% would reduce more def so would be more helpful. Non tap usually gets around 30-40ish so can get by with less so ebotdz sometimes works out better than edc. Vs fury and jab you don’t need to worry about it so it’s just high def with high dmg setup vs them so eprud sa, ebotdz/cruels, guili.
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Here, I solved the zealot for you

Armet viso 10 ds 400+ Def ber/ber
P fort of chains ap
Bitter badge vortex ber/ber
P upd gores
2x p ravens eturn
Highlords penta
P rends
P dungo
Fools zerker 300 Ed 20 max 2os erep
8x 6/48/35 papers
1x 132/45 monster
1x 36/20 Cb
17x 3/20/20 fbs

I tested every single option on d2ga, I am simply limited by my ability to make this character, it’s 25k ar. It only took me 2 weeks.

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Quote (Nataraja @ Sep 18 2022 10:10am)
Here, I solved the zealot for you

Armet viso 10 ds 400+ Def ber/ber
P fort of chains ap
Bitter badge vortex ber/ber
P upd gores
2x p ravens eturn
Highlords penta
P rends
P dungo
Fools zerker 300 Ed 20 max 2os erep
8x 6/48/35 papers
1x 132/45 monster
1x 36/20 Cb
17x 3/20/20 fbs

I tested every single option on d2ga, I am simply limited by my ability to make this character, it’s 25k ar. It only took me 2 weeks.


Hm yeah tough to get that stuff. Those visionaries used to be common not sure if they still are. The fools would be tough to find a non stolen one to use with those stats. I don’t think there are any bitter badges left on East but could be wrong.
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Sep 19 2022 12:33pm
Quote (Nataraja @ 18 Sep 2022 10:10)
Here, I solved the zealot for you

Armet viso 10 ds 400+ Def ber/ber
P fort of chains ap
Bitter badge vortex ber/ber
P upd gores
2x p ravens eturn
Highlords penta
P rends
P dungo
Fools zerker 300 Ed 20 max 2os erep
8x 6/48/35 papers
1x 132/45 monster
1x 36/20 Cb
17x 3/20/20 fbs

I tested every single option on d2ga, I am simply limited by my ability to make this character, it’s 25k ar. It only took me 2 weeks.


I think hybrids are banned in gm melee leagues.
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Quote (dark-soul @ Sep 19 2022 01:00pm)
Hm yeah tough to get that stuff. Those visionaries used to be common not sure if they still are. The fools would be tough to find a non stolen one to use with those stats. I don’t think there are any bitter badges left on East but could be wrong.



Just match the defense of a eth upd shaftsop, non eth alma, and use armet to boost defense. Rare shields are pretty ez to find, I found like a 300 def one but I just deleted all my chars cause I’m god now.
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Oct 6 2022 09:31pm
What are minimum total DEF, AR and life to reach to be competitive?
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Quote (NEEDdemRARES @ Oct 6 2022 11:31pm)
What are minimum total DEF, AR and life to reach to be competitive?


Depends if for lod or d2r. For lod though to be competitive you want around 3.6k+ life, 25k+ ar and depending on setup 55k+ def for a typical shaft/vis setup tap setup.

D2r has a lot of differences so I can’t give any numbers. It has lower def setups due to no eth bug exiles. This means you can get by with less total ar. The gear also isn’t nearly as good on d2r vs lod as far as how common perfect gear is on lod or how visionaries and fools weps are so good there as well. On lod you can still get high on the leaderboard with an edc setup but it’s a lot harder.

On d2r there aren’t any fools weps that beat an edc or ebotdz so it’s more of an even field still. Most pally visionaries are probably still plain or low stat as well which effect overall stats. Ebotdz is also a lot more competitive in tap setups due to the lower total def which is another difference. I also doubt anyone has a full inventory of 32020s on d2r whereas most people will on lod. I’d compare current d2r to 1.10 lod melee in a lot of aspects

Not sure if that answer helps at all

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Quote (dark-soul @ Oct 10 2022 12:00pm)
Depends if for lod or d2r. For lod though to be competitive you want around 3.6k+ life, 25k+ ar and depending on setup 55k+ def for a typical shaft/vis setup tap setup.

D2r has a lot of differences so I can’t give any numbers. It has lower def setups due to no eth bug exiles. This means you can get by with less total ar. The gear also isn’t nearly as good on d2r vs lod as far as how common perfect gear is on lod or how visionaries and fools weps are so good there as well. On lod you can still get high on the leaderboard with an edc setup but it’s a lot harder.

On d2r there aren’t any fools weps that beat an edc or ebotdz so it’s more of an even field still. Most pally visionaries are probably still plain or low stat as well which effect overall stats. Ebotdz is also a lot more competitive in tap setups due to the lower total def which is another difference. I also doubt anyone has a full inventory of 32020s on d2r whereas most people will on lod. I’d compare current d2r to 1.10 lod melee in a lot of aspects

Not sure if that answer helps at all



Lots of people have full sets of 3/20/20s.

This post was edited by Easi on Oct 11 2022 10:14am
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