It gets beaten vs shaft vis so if there are a lot of good visionaries around shaft would be the way to go

damn ty, but may I ask what exactly is the cookie cutter set up good for or against then? conc barbs?

It was a lot more competitive when I made the guide since visionaries weren’t as great back then. It may be more viable on d2r since I don’t know the market at all so if people are using primarily 1 soc pally visionaries or bad ds ones it could probably compete.

ty, I actually dont see many "gg" visionaries so maybe ill give it a go, I actually like the green armor lol

Just use a eth Andy’s, prudence and edc, and some random ar gcs and scs thank me later. Make sure your hitting atleast once in a zeal “5 swings” then boost your ar if your not but don’t mess up your damage.

Andy’s is banned since it’s always been banned on East gm melee on lod. It’s a gg helm to use but it’s banned for the psn nova ctc

Oops

It’s always been gm on west the rules just vary by realm. I wish Andy’s and death were both gm on East and the d2r leagues. Some outdated rules just won’t go away

This post was edited by dark-soul on Aug 30 2022 09:16pm

Do zealots ever get above 60k defense?

This post was edited by Nataraja on Sep 4 2022 08:53am

Tmight gets around 66k or so iirc. Shaft with high def vis can hit 60. Usually less than 60k though is the norm since pally visionaries are low defense.