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Mar 29 2022 01:43pm

i played around with the numbers a bit - seems to me forty wins out big times

basically for builds:
exile gives such a huge defense boost - can't choose any other shield
forti gives such a huge damage boost - can't use any other armor
highlords gives such a huge damage boost - can't use any other amu

didn't calc it all, but this is just from my gut feeling

from there it completes itself

This post was edited by cenec on Mar 29 2022 02:12pm

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Mar 29 2022 02:31pm

actually shaftstop might be an option, hmm... little more to it than i thought

just did few calculations, it's close but forti wins out in the builds i just tried

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Mar 29 2022 02:35pm

Quote (cenec @ Mar 29 2022 04:31pm)

actually shaftstop might be an option, hmm... little more to it than i thought

now think about different matchups and inventory. 30def/20life scs, 36ar/20life, 3/20/20s, ar/lfie GC's, max/ar/life gcs. 24k ar 34k def forti SS, 26-28k ar 40-50k def exile shaft. now play with inventory and dump or pump def and or ar

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Mar 29 2022 02:39pm

Quote (phyah @ Mar 29 2022 10:35pm)

using 36/20's atm, think only other option to consider are ar life gc's

actually with lifetap i think high ar might win out since you get more consistent lifetap procs with it. so low dmg high ar high def, in that case shaft + angelics would win

my shaft build currently (with which i'm playing around) has 49.6k def and 32k ar 4.2k life

life tap makes it kinda harder to math out, would need to simulate it

i might do it if servers are down any longer

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Mar 29 2022 04:58pm

Quote (phyah @ Mar 29 2022 10:35pm)

ye just wrote simulation

as i thought - without considering lifetap procs forti hlords wins against shaft hsarus angelics, with lifetap shaft hsarus wins with like 51% :rofl:

(didn't consider ow yet, will add that later

, considered ds, cb, lifetap, dr, lifetap, ar, def, min dmg, max dmg, hp, max block for all builds, 4 4 4 4 8 zeal for both)

edit: if you give me those values (both using exile) for 2 different builds i can run them vs each other

ah no, correct formula

current best build in my simulation uses gface

so need to add uncapped cb dr, ow and target defense reduce to simulation, but now tired

will do later

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Mar 30 2022 07:29pm

Quote (phyah @ Mar 29 2022 10:54am)

mucho mucho respect for playing tele zeal, such a fun build!. Also after new patch babas getting a nice ar boost via combat mastery change. And atm babas do very well but there will always be demi god zealots at the top. Fury needs to be looked at after patch and experimented heavily on. For jabber I would think theres a item/economy problem, gg rare javs are ultra rare since its new game still and shit ton of expensive stash swaps for different scenarios. Theres a guild MoS gaming or something running a very nice melee ladder, alrdy got 30 ppl on it. Good peeps lottah melee ppl out there in and out of the ladder

whats best tele zeal setup?

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May 11 2022 10:04am

Quote (Vermillion2 @ Mar 30 2022 09:29pm)

whats best tele zeal setup?

Here’s a good guide for telezeal if still interested

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=71278931&f=87

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May 14 2022 05:19am

which fort base would ya recommend? still Sa or got AP now?

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