Quote (Neutralman @ Jan 18 2010 04:59am)

Finally my Non-tap setup. I can consistently beat conc barbs with this, but for some reason fury druids destroy me in seconds. Maybe I need to duel them more :(.

http://i50.tinypic.com/2irnn9d.jpg

Quote (Neutralman @ Jan 18 2010 04:57am)

Ok, my new budget zealer builds. (Budget, as in total cost was under 3000fg)  Keep in mind, using a mix of 120ar/38 life GCs, 9max/60ar/35life GCs, 2/20/18scs, and 34ar/17life scs.

First up is my fortitude build!  Works well enough for me against 55kdef opponents.
http://i46.tinypic.com/ajwk5g.jpg

This is my Visionary Setup.  I use a EDC with a highlords for 100%ds and the 20ias req, and upped waterwalks for boots. 
http://i45.tinypic.com/icslth.jpg

Here's my prudence setup.  Yes I know it's supposed to be bad, but it works really well for me against BOTD users.
http://i49.tinypic.com/msyckp.jpg


I'll try the shako build when I find some decent IAS gloves.  Trying to find the best setup for me without upgrading my charms, good charms are expensive!!!

Quote (dark-soul @ Jan 18 2010 04:40pm)

Don't use that setup vs fury druids. Fury druids shouldn't be an issue at all in the right setup and for them you don't need to worry about ar at all. The most popular anti fury setup is this

40/15 guili
highlords
botd
eprud
40/15 ss
ravens
upd gores
steelrends

37x 32020s

I used a diff setup vs them and it never failed but I don't really share that one .



Hey looks good for the amount of fg you spent. And yes charms can get very expensive.

Had to rush a quick response since have to leave for work but i'll look over it some more when I get home.

Quote (Neutralman @ Jan 18 2010 04:57am)

Ok, my new budget zealer builds. (Budget, as in total cost was under 3000fg)  Keep in mind, using a mix of 120ar/38 life GCs, 9max/60ar/35life GCs, 2/20/18scs, and 34ar/17life scs.

First up is my fortitude build!  Works well enough for me against 55kdef opponents.
http://i46.tinypic.com/ajwk5g.jpg

This is my Visionary Setup.  I use a EDC with a highlords for 100%ds and the 20ias req, and upped waterwalks for boots. 
http://i45.tinypic.com/icslth.jpg

Here's my prudence setup.  Yes I know it's supposed to be bad, but it works really well for me against BOTD users.
http://i49.tinypic.com/msyckp.jpg


I'll try the shako build when I find some decent IAS gloves.  Trying to find the best setup for me without upgrading my charms, good charms are expensive!!!

Quote (dark-soul @ Jan 18 2010 09:58pm)

What are the stats on your visionary? +2 pally skill w/ stats/life berd? Waterwalks are nice for the life boost but I always liked war travs for the added damage + life when I didn't need ds. Prudence isn't a bad setup really it does well vs low ar setups since it has high def. What type of shaft is that?

Quote (Neutralman @ Jan 18 2010 10:19pm)

Here's the visionary I'm using.  What type of shaft??? My shaftstop is 2384 defense. 

http://i50.tinypic.com/30tpbp2.jpg

Quote (burtingam @ Jan 20 2010 11:52pm)

Hi guys Just read all your posts in the last days... loll

Was wondering if it worth to buy a 2422 shaftstop instead of a 2409 one....
Does it make a big difference... ?!?

Quote (dark-soul @ 20 Jan 2010 23:53)

Nah it won't make any diff besides cool points. And that's a lot of reading xD.

Quote (burtingam @ Jan 21 2010 12:35am)

yeah i kinda have a mega huge big extra headache

I wanna restart Melee

I had a lvl 98 El_Pvp CookieCutter like 99% perfect)
and wanted to make a new one
Dunno which one to do...

Other question...
Whats better:

1) 400 def vis mod with 2 sockets
or
2) 100 def vis mod with 2 sockets with 7+deadly strike (crafted)
or
3) 100 def vis mod + 2 pally 1 socket

Btw i'm soft us east non ladder

Quote (dark-soul @ 21 Jan 2010 00:46)

Depends on the other mods of the ds vis. 1 socket visionaries don't work to well so wouldn't go with 3.  Hgih def visionaries are nice if it has other mods too. Or just get a cham shako and call it a day .