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Quote (XUNGABUNGAX @ Feb 2 2022 09:32am)
I agree. I was just talking to someone else about this…

700def Eth Alma ( zod) + 250def 2soc vis (Cham Ber) = X def
500def non-Eth Alma (with Ber) + 450def 1 soc vis = same def

A high def 1soc vis and gg non-Eth Alma are easier and cheaper to find. High def 2soc vis and Eth Alma are harder and more expensive but higher style points… Both have the same result (I have and have tested both) just depends on what’s more important to you. IMO



That’s why you don’t use a 250 defense 2 socket visio :rofl:
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Feb 4 2022 04:11am
Nevermind
:zzz:

This post was edited by Hamm on Feb 4 2022 04:39am
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Nevermind
:zzz:



Saw your post before you edited it out. I don’t just post here based on theorycraft so feel free to have those real melees you know who have trophies in their profiles post here :)

Quote (XUNGABUNGAX @ Feb 2 2022 09:21am)
If you want CB this is the best option. Honestly though… if running Shaft with Eth Alma the truth is you are running a high def/ar build, so I think the best gloves would be

300+def
20IAS
+ar or 5%ar
Str

This would stay inline with your builds focus.


I personally prefer cb gloves for the extra stats and life over the eth self rep ias gloves. Kind of a trade off for life vs def but I think the cb ones tend to do better

Quote (XUNGABUNGAX @ Feb 2 2022 09:42am)
Again, I agree 💯

Shaft and edc require 20ias gloves. Shaft isn’t very flexible with IAS.

Rends are good for max dmg builds with fort and 30/80 vis helms.

EBOTDZ/Rends and shaft for a balanced def/ar/dmg build (DS vis would be ideal for 25% DS).

Not a fan of exile or any tap so I don’t have experience/recommendations for that… use Alma or a GG rare pally knights shield 😁


Tap duels are more exciting imo. It’s rng on top of rng so can always come from behind with a lucky tap ^_^

This post was edited by dark-soul on Feb 4 2022 07:41pm
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Quote (dark-soul @ 5 Feb 2022 02:11)
Saw your post before you edited it out. I don’t just post here based on theorycraft so feel free to have those real melees you know who have trophies in their profiles post here :)



I personally prefer cb gloves for the extra stats and life over the eth self rep ias gloves. Kind of a trade off for life vs def but I think the cb ones tend to do better



Tap duels are more exciting imo. It’s rng on top of rng so can always come from behind with a lucky tap ^_^


Legendary melee, Top Melee, Barbarians..Circus or BvB..
there are Zealots with many Zeal tournaments trophies
and experience, also different rules of duel in USAeast or Europe tho..

included Me, My Personal Experience and facts from real duels last 3 years is that everyone who focus on Maxing his Zeal Damage wins,
thats all.

And so in each of your item slot just use best melee damage item.

Defense is caped to ~36.000 Life to ~4000 and attack rating to ~25.000 thats all.. everything other is useless,
when you are dealing 90% Deadly Strike and 4000 minimum damage 8000 maximum damage.

If you are dealing damage like 2000 minimum 6000 maximum and 70% ds, than yes you have to Theory calculating and whatever about your defense etc to survive but u will loss versus opponent with Maxed his zealot damage thats all.

When u dueling with Exile? Life Taps allowed??
Than is no reason to not allow Grief or Death also,
and than is comoletely clear for all that anything other is unimportant and can be used whatever.
I never understood those rules to be honest..its not any logic than to allow Zodbugs Exile Hybrids and ban griefs deaths..
If so than ban all this craps and play with Pure Melee Physical damage items as this duels are about ;)

Thats why was created rules to ban Elemental Damage in pure physical melee duels in our europe duels..
You dont want elemental or magic attacker, why you will eant it in pure physical duel to show best physical win.

Good luck guys with Zealots in that new diablo game called resurrected! ;)

Items that wins duels are:

Steelrends >
Stormshield >
Highlords >
Gorerider >

Great Unique item for Zealot is 2800def 2off sks 15str Templars Might Eth Sacred Armor.

Shaftstop is another great item,
But is Complicated Buil than and not so effective until you get really great Rares to combine with, especialy an gz Rare Shield Diadem and Weapon.

About helmets, best:

Diadem 2 Sox vision 20+str 15+dex 15+life
with 30ias 80dmg or rare jewels
or
Crafted Armet 2 Sox vision 300+def 15+life 10%ds

Any rare helm high def whatever is Worse at all.

About Life or Attack speed, or Strength points Putting to wear gear,

No matter to max life, is caped to 4k no matter what, its enough,

Putting strength to wear Great damage item or armor,
is Welcomed and better to do than care of vita points,
Str also increasing your zeal damage and zeal damage matters.

Using Lower attack speed weapon with Great damage and use 15ias 40ed jewels for it is Welcomed and Better than care about higher attack speed weapon but with Lower damage to use rare jewels..

And Minimum Damage on the Weapon Matters alot in Zeal vs Zeal so will be allways Best Weapon base for rare weapons Legendary Mallet, Seraph rod, Ettin Axe or Devil Star..
Hydra Edge also better for zeal Than Berserker Axe.


If allowed Exile Forti, than no reason to not allow Grief or Death again..if this items are fun to play still for users than oks.. ^^

And Breath Of The Dying is very good weapon to use if you dont find any great rare weapon ;)

If you play zeal in new diablo game,
There is possible many things cause i dont know what new blizzards will make, what mechanics will work or not work and what rules will players create..

Gl guys again with Zealots!

This post was edited by Hamm on Feb 5 2022 02:46am
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Sorry but nobody needs a guide after 22 years for a char that’s only for 60+ year old people cos they can only press one button
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Quote (Stefbef @ 5 Feb 2022 09:35)
Sorry but nobody needs a guide after 22 years for a char that’s only for 60+ year old people cos they can only press one button


This guide is from 2009 friend..

And i think they will need new one for that new diablo game beta game that is running now i think ;)
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Feb 5 2022 02:49am
Quote (Hamm @ 5 Feb 2022 09:39)
This guide is from 2009 friend..

And i think they will need new one for that new diablo game beta game that is running now i think ;)



Oh lol :D
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Quote (Hamm @ Feb 5 2022 03:17am)
Legendary melee, Top Melee, Barbarians..Circus or BvB..
there are Zealots with many Zeal tournaments trophies
and experience, also different rules of duel in USAeast or Europe tho..

included Me, My Personal Experience and facts from real duels last 3 years is that everyone who focus on Maxing his Zeal Damage wins,
thats all.

And so in each of your item slot just use best melee damage item.

Defense is caped to ~36.000 Life to ~4000 and attack rating to ~25.000 thats all.. everything other is useless,
when you are dealing 90% Deadly Strike and 4000 minimum damage 8000 maximum damage.

If you are dealing damage like 2000 minimum 6000 maximum and 70% ds, than yes you have to Theory calculating and whatever about your defense etc to survive but u will loss versus opponent with Maxed his zealot damage thats all.

When u dueling with Exile? Life Taps allowed??
Than is no reason to not allow Grief or Death also,
and than is comoletely clear for all that anything other is unimportant and can be used whatever.
I never understood those rules to be honest..its not any logic than to allow Zodbugs Exile Hybrids and ban griefs deaths..
If so than ban all this craps and play with Pure Melee Physical damage items as this duels are about ;)

Thats why was created rules to ban Elemental Damage in pure physical melee duels in our europe duels..
You dont want elemental or magic attacker, why you will eant it in pure physical duel to show best physical win.

Good luck guys with Zealots in that new diablo game called resurrected! ;)

Items that wins duels are:

Steelrends >
Stormshield >
Highlords >
Gorerider >

Great Unique item for Zealot is 2800def 2off sks 15str Templars Might Eth Sacred Armor.

Shaftstop is another great item,
But is Complicated Buil than and not so effective until you get really great Rares to combine with, especialy an gz Rare Shield Diadem and Weapon.

About helmets, best:

Diadem 2 Sox vision 20+str 15+dex 15+life
with 30ias 80dmg or rare jewels
or
Crafted Armet 2 Sox vision 300+def 15+life 10%ds

Any rare helm high def whatever is Worse at all.

About Life or Attack speed, or Strength points Putting to wear gear,

No matter to max life, is caped to 4k no matter what, its enough,

Putting strength to wear Great damage item or armor,
is Welcomed and better to do than care of vita points,
Str also increasing your zeal damage and zeal damage matters.

Using Lower attack speed weapon with Great damage and use 15ias 40ed jewels for it is Welcomed and Better than care about higher attack speed weapon but with Lower damage to use rare jewels..

And Minimum Damage on the Weapon Matters alot in Zeal vs Zeal so will be allways Best Weapon base for rare weapons Legendary Mallet, Seraph rod, Ettin Axe or Devil Star..
Hydra Edge also better for zeal Than Berserker Axe.


If allowed Exile Forti, than no reason to not allow Grief or Death again..if this items are fun to play still for users than oks.. ^^

And Breath Of The Dying is very good weapon to use if you dont find any great rare weapon ;)

If you play zeal in new diablo game,
There is possible many things cause i dont know what new blizzards will make, what mechanics will work or not work and what rules will players create..

Gl guys again with Zealots!


Max damage isn’t always the way to go. There are not caps to def ar or life not sure what you’re talking about there. Exile was always gm on East nl in zeal vs zeal so it’s used in those duels. Grief was always banned on East due to the existing rules for poison damage. Europe used to follow East rules in their gm melee leagues so exile was used there as well. They’ve since changed to non tap like you’re used to since you’re newer to melee. West has always had exile banned though. East has also always had the largest gm melee community and is where I’ve always dueled so my guide is made with those rules in mind.

When using exile the rest of the setup would be different than non tap so a lot of what you’re saying wouldn’t work for tap setups. My guide and posts isn’t based on theorycraft but based on my personal dueling experience. D2r would currently be the same as lod for zealots and if going by the active ladders there then East rulesets.

This post was edited by dark-soul on Feb 5 2022 10:37am
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Quote (dark-soul @ 5 Feb 2022 17:34)
Max damage isn’t always the way to go. There are not caps to def ar or life not sure what you’re talking about there. Exile was always gm on East nl in zeal vs zeal so it’s used in those duels. Grief was always banned on East due to the existing rules for poison damage. Europe used to follow East rules in their gm melee leagues so exile was used there as well. They’ve since changed to non tap like you’re used to since you’re newer to melee. West has always had exile banned though. East has also always had the largest gm melee community and is where I’ve always dueled so my guide is made with those rules in mind.

When using exile the rest of the setup would be different than non tap so a lot of what you’re saying wouldn’t work for tap setups. My guide and posts isn’t based on theorycraft but based on my personal dueling experience. D2r would currently be the same as lod for zealots and if going by the active ladders there then East rulesets.


Life Tap is Black Magic Curse,
so has nothing to do with melee physical duels.
I never understood why tap duels and also Buged, zodbuged and hybrids were allowed in east but ofcourse i know this duels. Thats why i said is no reason to not allow grief death and all other items than..
But its rulesets that players play for years so..whatever..

Caps i was talking about are from my experience that you really dont need more than i wrote to win with maxed damage.
Honestly, making your zealot 90% deadly strike and 4000-8000 damage, especially Minimum Damage is the best thing..its the Fact.

About D2Resurrected,
As i dont play it but i heard there are Strange mechanics,
with attack speed and many more, also they are making new Patch with different skills items dunno cause really
i dont read this game,
So you will make New guide with New things in that game.
So will not be same as LOD original game..will be completely new game seems.

This post was edited by Hamm on Feb 5 2022 10:47am
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Quote (Hamm @ Feb 5 2022 11:45am)
Life Tap is Black Magic Curse,
so has nothing to do with melee physical duels.
I never understood why tap duels and also Buged, zodbuged and hybrids were allowed in east but ofcourse i know this duels. Thats why i said is no reason to not allow grief death and all other items than..
But its rulesets that players play for years so..whatever..

Caps i was talking about are from my experience that you really dont need more than i wrote to win with maxed damage.
Honestly, making your zealot 90% deadly strike and 4000-8000 damage, especially Minimum Damage is the best thing..its the Fact.

About D2Resurrected,
As i dont play it but i heard there are Strange mechanics,
with attack speed and many more, also they are making new Patch with different skills items dunno cause really
i dont read this game,
So you will make New guide with New things in that game.
So will not be same as LOD original game..will be completely new game seems.


I heard legacy has bad graphics, so I don’t play it.
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