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#14331
Apr 3 2020 10:04am
Quote (DEATH_METAL @ Apr 3 2020 08:24am)
Very nice guide!!! thank you!!! I wil make eth valor setup. what kind of merc is more effective for this build? should iI have a spare coh if i need more resis? Thank you.


Thank you! The gear has to be completely changed to do pvm though. These setups lack the res and damage of pvm setups so you’d be better off going with a pure pvm setup.

For pvm I like

Guili 40/15 ias
Death ettin
Hoz 40/15 ias
War travs
Nos coil
Raven
Melee ring with ll
Highlords
Fort
Loh

This pic doesn’t have max res since I didn’t have any res charms in inventory at the time since I was doing melee duels.



For a full pvm guide there’s https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=28612344&f=87 who does a great job at going over all the options for gear and merc.

Side note I’m actually remaking this guy on east ladder

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#14333
Apr 11 2020 02:48am
Question on Skill Points allocation in April 2020:

Thoughts on add more points to Blessed Aim instead of Sacrifice? Context is tap Zeal v Zeal duels where defense go from 53k to 60k or over and AR ranges from 25k to 28k typically.

Usually we max Sacrifice as synergy to give high damage, at least on the fake character screen. At the same time, we only add more points to Blessed Aim for some more AR beyond level 96.

Assuming we fix that Defiance as synergy is maxed to give highest possible defense with Holy Shield, inventory is simply 37x 3/20/20 and no use of higher AR charms, would you recommend adding more than 4 points to Blessed Aim (1 pre-requisite to Fanaticism and 3 at levels 97-99) instead of 20 to Sacrifice, and why not?
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Apr 11 2020 06:34am
There can certainly be some adjustments made here. My advise would be to see you like it for yourself, since tokens aren't expensive. I have done some extensive testing on this. In general I would say this:. I don't believe it's worth the damage loss to say put 5 extra points in ar. Edc seems to hit just fine at 22-30k are range.

My personal opinion has been that higher ar does not always mean more hits. But the damage lossed is always noticed. As an example if you have a 2 socketed fools Lo Lo and used Angelica with it the extra ar doesn't seem to hit more.

That build use to be used a lot with ebotdz, highlords, and could still do well. Is the only way I personally would run it.
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Apr 11 2020 09:03pm
Quote (hengster @ Apr 11 2020 04:48am)
Question on Skill Points allocation in April 2020:

Thoughts on add more points to Blessed Aim instead of Sacrifice? Context is tap Zeal v Zeal duels where defense go from 53k to 60k or over and AR ranges from 25k to 28k typically.

Usually we max Sacrifice as synergy to give high damage, at least on the fake character screen. At the same time, we only add more points to Blessed Aim for some more AR beyond level 96.

Assuming we fix that Defiance as synergy is maxed to give highest possible defense with Holy Shield, inventory is simply 37x 3/20/20 and no use of higher AR charms, would you recommend adding more than 4 points to Blessed Aim (1 pre-requisite to Fanaticism and 3 at levels 97-99) instead of 20 to Sacrifice, and why not?


I'm not really a big fan of adding to blessed aim over sacrifice. I'd rather add to dex and/or use some 36/20s to increase ar if I feel i'm lacking than take the flat hit to damage. Some swear by adding to it but I never really did it. Especially now that non tap seems to be more popular high ar is even less important than it used to be since instead of everyone having upper 50-60k def most have 40-50 or less so 22-27k ar is more than enough. And even for tap duels I find mid 20s to be adequate.

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#14336
Apr 12 2020 08:26pm
Love the guide and I wanted to get your thoughts on a shield I'm considering making into an Exile. I've seen very few eth, high resist elite paladin shields, and I've been very unlucky on my ebug roles as I've already wasted a dozen before I got this 4 socket:
Kurast Shield (85)
Defense: 360 (160 base shield before ebug so pretty damn low on a range of 154-172)
Chance to Block: 50%
Durability: 28 of 28
(Paladin Only)
Required Strength: 114
Required Level: 55
All Resistances +43
Ethereal (Cannot be Repaired), Socketed (4)
Assuming I get a middle roll 240%ED, this would give me a 1,224 def shield. I'm torn because this is literally a non-min/max shield as I don't have the best defense as a vortex nor do I have the highest block s a ST; it's literally shield #3 of 5 so a "balance" of both with str required being in the middle too. The reason I want to get out of my upped HoZ is to replace my dracs as I need/want to keep life tap for the Ubers. I only PvM with this char, I want to get defense super high hence my preference of the vortex shield (I've only gotten one that was eth, high res, and failed to get the right slots for ebug), but I really dont want to try for another month to find and ebug another shield. I'm thinking I should do it, and resell later. The rest of the gear is Grief, G Face, Fortitude, String of Ears, Draculs, Gore Riders, Highlords, Raven Frost, dual leech AR ring, torch, anni, charms. I have a Tgods, whisp, dwarf, and string of ears for swap; I have a lay of hands which I swap if I don't need the life tap price from Draculs. I'd greatly appreciate your thoughts on making the shield and resell if I find my perfect vortex, or just keep farming?

Edit: also, has there been an update to your guide in the last 574 pages? If so, can you tell me what post #?

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Apr 13 2020 01:04am
Quote (Raralith @ Apr 12 2020 10:26pm)
Love the guide and I wanted to get your thoughts on a shield I'm considering making into an Exile. I've seen very few eth, high resist elite paladin shields, and I've been very unlucky on my ebug roles as I've already wasted a dozen before I got this 4 socket:
Kurast Shield (85)
Defense: 360 (160 base shield before ebug so pretty damn low on a range of 154-172)
Chance to Block: 50%
Durability: 28 of 28
(Paladin Only)
Required Strength: 114
Required Level: 55
All Resistances +43
Ethereal (Cannot be Repaired), Socketed (4)
Assuming I get a middle roll 240%ED, this would give me a 1,224 def shield. I'm torn because this is literally a non-min/max shield as I don't have the best defense as a vortex nor do I have the highest block s a ST; it's literally shield #3 of 5 so a "balance" of both with str required being in the middle too. The reason I want to get out of my upped HoZ is to replace my dracs as I need/want to keep life tap for the Ubers. I only PvM with this char, I want to get defense super high hence my preference of the vortex shield (I've only gotten one that was eth, high res, and failed to get the right slots for ebug), but I really dont want to try for another month to find and ebug another shield. I'm thinking I should do it, and resell later. The rest of the gear is Grief, G Face, Fortitude, String of Ears, Draculs, Gore Riders, Highlords, Raven Frost, dual leech AR ring, torch, anni, charms. I have a Tgods, whisp, dwarf, and string of ears for swap; I have a lay of hands which I swap if I don't need the life taThat's a good question. Runeword bases are a pain. I searched the east trade sections quickly and didn't see many kurast exile threads. That doesn't necessarily mean it wouldn't sell though especially since that one has 43 res. If I had the base and the runes and wanted an exile I would probably just p price from Draculs. I'd greatly appreciate your thoughts on making the shield and resell if I find my perfect vortex, or just keep farming?

Edit: also, has there been an update to your guide in the last 574 pages? If so, can you tell me what post #?


You could also just use a wand with life tap charges on switch and then not worry about exile. Runeword bases are a pain in my experience so if I really wanted to use an exile and I had the runes and that base I would just make exile and then sell it if I ever found an st. It has 43 res so it shouldn't be too hard to sell. But imo it's not even needed for ubers since a wand works well enough for lifetap.

As for the guide it's still current. The only differences are now there's better visionaries and fools weps than when I made the guide but the setups are the same. Non tap is also popular these days on east and europpe iirc (it was always a thing on west) and I didn't include any non tap setups since not many really did non tap in zeal vs zeal back then on east nl which is where I always dueled. For pvm none of the setups I listed should be used though. For that I would use the setup I posted here which is my favorite for pvm http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=32187727&f=87&p=556518974

For more pvm info and other setups I'd refer to Ancalogons guide - https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=28612344&f=87
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#14338
Apr 13 2020 01:17am
Hi just wondering why you don't use 32020s for the valor setup aswell? Very nice guide
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Apr 13 2020 07:07am
Quote (Mandalorian @ Apr 13 2020 03:17am)
Hi just wondering why you don't use 32020s for the valor setup aswell? Very nice guide


This is due to using highlords and ebotdz. The ar is at 18k and would be to low without 32020s.

If you have a g valor and Cham it to use with esc and Angelica then use 3 2020s. Or if you have a nice fools.
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Apr 26 2020 12:36pm
Quote (Mandalorian @ Apr 13 2020 03:17am)
Hi just wondering why you don't use 32020s for the valor setup aswell? Very nice guide


Thank you!
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