Hm. I thought I remembered Obedience shattering more often due to CB, but maybe that's just a bad memory? Maybe it shatters more often in practice because it doesn't burst as much as a Gavel'd Obedience hit.

iirc Cold Length for Obedience is 3 seconds, with a 25% hell multiplier (0.75s length)
Reaper's Toll was random last I checked (anywhere from 1-3s, still can't tell if it's dependent on some weird spawning property of each particular Reaper's Toll or pure random)

But you're 100% right. The damage range on Obedience is insane; good bottom & top end. And it has CB, which I guess is kinda cute. If I rewrite this (and I should, honeslty), it'll be in there 100%.
Base-wise I'd use an Eth 5os Giant Thresher, for sure.

3os Circlet of Life Leech 2x 15IAS + Cham // or Andariel's Visage + Cham
Black Hades 3x 15IAS, or 2x 15IAS + Ral
Obedience GT

Should get you to 5.56~ hits per second on the circlet setup, 5 hits/sec on the Andy's?

https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/fq0106r3#23

This post was edited by Exokek on May 13 2022 10:03am

I'd still pick eth war pike because it can potentially 2 hit KO with jab:

https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/gi010645

Modified your setup at set 24. Have a look at the DPS.

This post was edited by babun1024 on May 13 2022 10:21am

The attack speed difference becomes pretty wild, no? I'd need to test.

EDIT: After testing Obedience, it DOES work super well. You however will lose about 1-2 corpses per run. It's pretty frustrating given how much of our yield depends on Find Item on p1, but it's a REALLY solid budget choice.

This post was edited by Exokek on May 13 2022 10:25am

https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/gi010645

Your set modified at clone set 24.

Yeah; if I could rewrite the guide I'd 100% find room for Cham everywhere. That said, the HFD on Hades might be enough not to need it. At that point you can even just a 3os 8LL with 3x15IAS and ignore the fire res penalty.

You need exactly 80ias for the 5.5 ias BP on war pike but then the weapon becomes a monster.

Yeah it's 80IAS for the 4.55 on War Pike iirc (BOTD + Andy normally), or 125IAS for 5hits per second (rarely worth it if you're using the chest to hit it).

Past that, Beast can push you to 5.56, or even 6.25 if you go 4x 15/40s Chest + 2x 15IAS/Cham circlet

GT EBOTD base + cham'd gface + fort
tried this setup and its working out well, haven't tried the fort/andys/ebotd pike setup is there one you prefer between the two? want to stick to fort base since an eth coh will be a pain to sell :/

This is an amazing setup. If I rewrote the guide I'd put it in there as an option.

I like the WP more overall, but you kinda need CoH with Andy's, if you want a Cham. Alternative to Andy is to use a 3os circlet with 15IAS x2 + Cham x1

I was thinking about making a gf barb as a starter next ladder and was thinking of using

Duriels
Obedience
Tals

If I level to level 87ish before, is there a way that this setup will carry me through?

If nobody tried that before, imma have to check it out myself, but I'd love to hear your input.
This is supposed to work within the first 24 hours of ladder reset, so GG gear is out of the question :/

Any other recommendations? Would an A5 merc do the trick better, using headstriker, duriels, Tals?