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Apr 6 2010 05:43pm
Quote (FnK @ Apr 6 2010 11:31pm)
I don't remember the exact amount of AR you lose, but iirc it's like 8 SC's or something you need to swap in, which definitely adds up... Anyway let's not discuss it further, I don't think we're gonna get anywhere^^



Oh, on a sidenote you also lose 11% DR if you're using tgod, which I guess we can both agree on is quite important :P


yeah wisp quite does not cut it however as u lose ar anyway and its not as effective as tgods
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Apr 6 2010 06:06pm
Quote (FnK @ 7 Apr 2010 00:31)
I don't remember the exact amount of AR you lose, but iirc it's like 8 SC's or something you need to swap in, which definitely adds up... Anyway let's not discuss it further, I don't think we're gonna get anywhere^^


true lol, we've been debating in circles.



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Oh, on a sidenote you also lose 7% DR if you're using tgod, which I guess we can both agree on is quite important :P


yeah I did forget this too ^^ I just think barb has enough gameplay advantage over smiters and v/ts to make up for the statistical losses
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Apr 6 2010 06:15pm
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nice guide, but i cannot understand your choice about skilling Holy Shield over Smite.
i didnt read all 143pages, maybe its already been discussed, but why defense over damage ?
i would rather put in HS until getting 37 or 38% base block (few points with all skillers used) them max Smite.

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Apr 7 2010 05:16pm
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nice guide, but i cannot understand your choice about skilling Holy Shield over Smite.
i didnt read all 143pages, maybe its already been discussed, but why defense over damage ?
i would rather put in HS until getting 37 or 38% base block (few points with all skillers used) them max Smite.

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holy shield = 1% more block and 4000 more def vs like 15-20 more smite damage... that 15-20 damge (overall) wont do shit... to make a diff in a duel (i tried and traded hit for hit with another smiter and it takes the same amount of hits to kill)
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Apr 7 2010 05:21pm
idk if looking at hits to kill should matter, since you have foh and life rep that constantly changes the amount of hits they need to die.
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Apr 7 2010 05:24pm
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idk if looking at hits to kill should matter, since you have foh and life rep that constantly changes the amount of hits they need to die.


perhaps... but like i said the diff is so minor it really wont matter... and smite takes off such a large chunk... even if they are left with like 100 life left 1 powerful foh will take care of that easily

i like the 4000def + 1% more block

however, my current vt is rebuilt into the traditional "vt" for 3.4k smite + 43xx foh damage at lvl 96. for vt vs vt duels (which take place in nm)
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Apr 7 2010 05:46pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ 8 Apr 2010 00:24)
perhaps... but like i said the diff is so minor it really wont matter... and smite takes off such a large chunk... even if they are left with like 100 life left 1 powerful foh will take care of that easily

i like the 4000def + 1% more block

however, my current vt is rebuilt into the traditional "vt" for 3.4k smite + 43xx foh damage at lvl 96. for vt vs vt duels (which take place in nm)


Sure if you prefer the def go for it, just saying I don't think the "same amounts to kill" argument really matters when you have other low sources of damage to consider.
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Apr 8 2010 10:02am
+1 smite :

~ + 75 dmg

+1 holy shield :

~ +40 dmg
~ +300 def (more with exile setup)

HolyShield level -- Block bonus
27 -- 37%
36 -- 38%
45 -- 39%
60 -- 40%

1 hard point in holy shield gives final level 28+
20 hard points gives level45 block breakpoint, thats overall +2% block, so you save ~ 3-4 points in dext to maintain max block.
~ 3-4 dext saved = 3-4 more vita = 9-12 base life = ~ +20life after bo

1smite/20holy shield = +20life / +6K def
20smite/1holy shield = +0.7K dmg on smite

and defense is useless vs many duelers (smiters, foh, VT, hammers, any sorc but melee, necros, traps, ele-druids, widowmaker builds...).

Obviously you have some experience in duelling with VT, so i totally trust you. Actually i skilled my VT with max HS according to your guide.
But still, i dont understand ;)

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Apr 9 2010 03:57am
nn vigor, overrated too
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