Quote (praest @ Mar 15 2016 06:09am)

Is it just me or does the Shako/Shaft setup lack IAS?
It's only the 40 from Death Cleaver and with exile/alma negra Fanaticism is at lvl 29.
This means the setup lack 16 ias? Do you get those from the gloves? :)

And the GBane setup - isn't there a total overkill of DR? Doesn't it cap at 50?
Because 31 from Coa + 20 from GBane + 15 from Dungo.
Sorry if i'm the noob - just curious.

I'm thinking:
Shako (Ber) - 18DR
Eth Gbane (Zod) - 20DR
Verdungo - 15DR
Gore Rider
Steelrend - Is there an alternative? To spare points into str.

Botdz - 60ias here enough to hit max fpa zeal
Eth Alma (Zod)

Angelic ammy + rings

Torch
Anni
Max/ar/life

And if BM
Griefz - 40ias
Exile ed/ar
Switch 20ias/def/stats rare gloves.

Could this work? Or is it just shit vs. Shaft + visio?
If necessary Shako could be switched with visio (ber'ber).

Quote (Oganix @ Mar 15 2016 05:47pm)

yes edc needs 56ias, 2x 15ias/40ed jools in viso with steelrends is usually better then ias gloves, but with tap you dont have much choice cuz u need the ber in viso.
gbane is dmg reduce by 20, not 20%. you need 50% DR.

actually i wonder if the DR mod without the % still works once you have 50% dr? I think it still does but its not much at all. Im guessing the 20dr takes 20dmg off the total dmg of the hit. ne1 confirm this?

Quote (Oganix @ Mar 15 2016 06:13pm)

greif is better ofc if ur in pubs but in gm zeal its bm. edc is by far the best cheap gm wep unless you wanna spend atleast 10k would get u an o.k. 1os erep which is about as good as a edc lol, 2os ereps are considerably better ofc.

Quote (praest @ Mar 15 2016 11:22am)

Yea, so if
BM Grief + Exile
GM EDC + Eth Alma Negra (a rare w. 2sox would be better but ofc. more expensive)

And Grief should be BA or PB? :)
If PB it's possible to use Steelrend
If BA it's necessary to put on 20ias gloves (I don't think i'll ever have enough fg to buy a visio or fools)

Quote (praest @ Mar 15 2016 10:09am)

Is it just me or does the Shako/Shaft setup lack IAS?
It's only the 40 from Death Cleaver and with exile/alma negra Fanaticism is at lvl 29.
This means the setup lack 16 ias? Do you get those from the gloves? :)

And the GBane setup - isn't there a total overkill of DR? Doesn't it cap at 50?
Because 31 from Coa + 20 from GBane + 15 from Dungo.
Sorry if i'm the noob - just curious.

I'm thinking:
Shako (Ber) - 18DR
Eth Gbane (Zod) - 20DR
Verdungo - 15DR
Gore Rider
Steelrend - Is there an alternative? To spare points into str.

Botdz - 60ias here enough to hit max fpa zeal
Eth Alma (Zod)

Angelic ammy + rings

Torch
Anni
Max/ar/life

And if BM
Griefz - 40ias
Exile ed/ar
Switch 20ias/def/stats rare gloves.

Could this work? Or is it just shit vs. Shaft + visio?
If necessary Shako could be switched with visio (ber'ber).

Quote (dark-soul @ Mar 16 2016 06:02am)

Exile is actually gm in zeal vs zeal (on east). Even if one zealot is non-tap the other can still use exile. The only time it isn't aloud is vs conc barbs or fury druids. In non tap duels an ss would also be a lot better than an alma. Pb would be the best option for grief in bm duels.



The stat gloves I was referring to for shako/shaft setup were 20 ias gloves. I actually never realized I didn't specify the ias on those gloves for the shaft setups. I'd swap gbane for eprud and alma for ss in your non tap setup. Then you can cham the shako (so then you can also use the shako for tap duels) and jewel the ss and go angelics.

Quote (praest @ Mar 16 2016 01:57am)

Okay, i'll go with a phaseblade and steelrends then for my BM-setup.

I just thought the ed/ar from Alma Negra was a great substitute for the Exile that also grants ed/ar?
Why use Prudence with Stormshield and not Fortitude or another armor - there's 50DR from the SS+Dungo anyways? Is it because of the huge DEF-bonus from Prudence? :)

What should the Stormshield be socket with? 100ar/ed jewel?

Quote (dark-soul @ Mar 16 2016 03:53am)

Ss is best for nontap since it opens up the armor and helm options. Yes sir eprud has great def which is why I usually suggest it. Forts also a good option though.