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Jun 6 2021 10:36am
Quote (gel87 @ Jun 6 2021 09:22am)
Any1 know if this can be used on other chars? Or only when shaping?

A brawler forexample?

Anyway, my idea for an brawler is ghost glaive 40ias/fools/300ed/kb/ctc amp + beast in -10 wsm wep. I reach max ias in that build anyway.


Tho I haven't play any sin, zon and sorc yet, I think for this build, it needs to be all these:
1. can hold 2x wp (barb, sin)
2. based on #1 condition, not only can be animal form, but need to use animal form attack skill instead of Beast bear normal attack (only feral rage barb can hold 2x wp, use one as main)

but the fools + beast one u said is definitely amazing, do you got the build gear and points list?

This post was edited by Ironboar on Jun 6 2021 10:41am
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Jun 6 2021 10:55am
Quote (Ironboar @ Jun 6 2021 06:28pm)
I'm not sure what to do now for testing deeper, here's my plan to test main wp ias wsm relation w/ the glitch:
im gonna let my other char (big life barb or oak druid, easily 5-6k life with only 34 ~ 66 defense for testing) stand still.

I've preprared 0%-ias, 2xShael'd, 3x Shael'd, 4x Shael'd, 5xShael'd and 6xShael'd white PB,

will wear only Wolfhowl + anni + WP + glitch PB, no amu, no torch (the fire trigger not fair), no merc, naked.

each PB test 5~10 times, since they all got same dmg, I wanna see if their dmg / time ratio is same or different.
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Jun 6 2021 10:56am
From summerfun's link I found the way I wrote Frame is ez to cause some misunderstood, I used to only put the hitting speed like 1st page comparison list.
for Feral Rage I think here is the correct form:

Topic build Feral Rage: 3F animation on ur screen, 4/4F (hit the target is still 4F, attack but without hitting is 4F), under decrepify & frozen still 3F animation & 4/4F actual.
Griswold 4xShael's: 3/4F (hit the target then 3F, didn't hit 4F)
PB Grief normal: 5/7F (even w/ Beast, hit the target then 5F, didn't hit things 7F)
topic glitch Grief per second can attack about 6 times (no decimal here), Normal Grief wolf will attack about 4 times per sec

This post was edited by Ironboar on Jun 6 2021 10:58am
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Jun 6 2021 11:21am
Quote (Ironboar @ Jun 6 2021 06:36pm)
Tho I haven't play any sin, zon and sorc yet, I think for this build, it needs to be all these:
1. can hold 2x wp (barb, sin)
2. based on #1 condition, not only can be animal form, but need to use animal form attack skill instead of Beast bear normal attack (only feral rage barb can hold 2x wp, use one as main)

but the fools + beast one u said is definitely amazing, do you got the build gear and points list?


Quote (gel87 @ Aug 29 2020 06:17pm)
Oki, lets make 1 more standard build which dont really belong in the typical "funchar" section.

Gel87's Bvc:

Gear:
Weps:
God ba (cheap edition grief ba)
Bod ba (cheap edition beast ba)

Helm:
2barb/20fcr/30frw/visio/life or dex or base ar or @/2soc:
Cham + Ber
Alternative/stashed, but not neccesary:
Coa 110cr/50@/15%dr/adds
20fcr/BerBerCham
20fcr/dr helm

Belts:
Arach
Dungo / bug belt

Gloves:
Trang oul's

Boots:
Upped gores

Armor:
Eni AP 15ed(max level 97)

Ring 1:
10fcr/14+ dex/1xx ar/life/mana/@ res
(you May also keep dual stack fcr rings vs cold/lr

Ring 2:
Wisp 20
Raven 250/20
Dwarf
Angelic

Highlord
Angelic
2/20/life/@

Secondary:
3wc/lt charges/Falfal + 3wc/lr chargets/falfal
&
Ghost glaive 40ias/280+ed/fool's/preferable with kb and ctc amp.
Beast military pick(high enough str to cover carry eni(33 if perf t/a)

Inventory:
20/20 torch and annie
1 x lc 6max/48ar/8fhr
8 x 5fhr/3/20 (swap 4 of them with 322s when only need 27fhr break)
322's

Stash some 20/5@ for when needed.

Cube:
3wc str ammu
Demon limb
6bo(nice adds are extra shout/bc)
2 sojs

Statting:
Str: 0
Dex: some
Vita: res
Ene: 0

Skills:
1 throw masteries
1 all natrual(iron skin, stamina, frw, 2 to natural resists)
20 axe masteries
20 wirlwind
1 zerk
20 bo
16 leap
1 bc
1 wc
Rest shout.

The jav is only needed vs hammers, but can be used vs others for fun.
Beast military lets you pick up body due to low requirements, adds the str needed to wear gear and is a - 10 base who adds lvl 9 fana for ar/dmg/ias which lets 40ias ghost glaives get 2,77 attacks pr sec with 15gear ias(hl). The fools gives you the ar needed to hit paladins and throwing masteries adds the enhanced dmg twice on single throw.

Lvl 9 fana adds:
80% ar
186% ed
29 EIAS.

Life:

If eq was perf it would give this life:
40 ring
26*20 = 520
Barb:
Starting life: 52
4 life pr vita
2 life pr level.
40 * 4 = 160 uboable.
Quest = 60
Full bo level is 45 aka 167% add. +5% from eni = 172
= 40+520+52+(2*97)+60 = 866 * 2,72 = 2355

Stats avaible:
(97-1)*5+15 = 495
430 * 4 * 2,72 = 4678
4678 + 2355 = 7032
Which means we stat the remaining 65 into dex.
Total dex:
Start 20
Statting 65
Eq is : 20 + 15 + 40 = 75

Total dex:
160.

Ar:
From dex:
(160*5)+20-35 = 785
Gear/invent:
120 + (37*20) = 860
Fools:
16*97 = 1552.

Bonuses:
Axe masteries: 268
Throw masteries: 118
Enchant: 218
Wirlwind: 150
Zerk: 265
Visio: 97
Fana: 80

Throw ar:
(1552 + 860 + 785)*(1+((118+218+97+80)/100)) = 19597 ar.

Wirl ar:
(860+785)*(1+((268+218+97+80+150)/100) = 15018 ar.

Berzerk ar:
(860+785)*(1+((265+218+97+80+268)/100) = 16910 ar.

The zerk and wirl dmg is like any other bvc dmg.

Strenght:
30 + 40 + 40 + (0,75*97) = 182
Stat bonus javs:
(182+160)*0,75 = 256
The throw dmg is average:
Base: ((0,5*97)+(3*37))/2 + (57,5*1,5*4) = 79+345 = 424
Total:
424 * (1+((256+186+83+83)/100)) = 3001.

If we include our 50% deadly strike and 18% crit chance we can multiply with something like 1,55.

3001 * 1,55 = 4652 average :)

Breakpoints:
63fcr
Max ias on all attacks
Good frw
48fhr
7k life
Good ar
16% dr(precast fade with treachury if bm duels)
The BerBercham helm + dungo = 38% dr
The BerBercham helm + bb = 43% dr.
U can also have a 10ds/visio/berber helm if want, or a 2/20/30/visio/add/berber helm as well if needed vs smiters etc.

The ar/dmg calc was with:
Arach
Wisp
Trangs
Hl
Upped gores
Ghost glaive 40/300/fool's + beast military pick
// god + bod ba
2/20/30/visio/20dex/chamBer helm.
Preboed.
37 x 3max/20ar/life-fhr etc.


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Jun 6 2021 12:49pm
Ok I collected that build gel,

and since I don't got more time I only tested dex glitch build w/ these 2 PB: 6xShael PB & white PB (dont got plain I used a 15-3), each tested 11x times,
test use object:
lvl 99, barb,
life = 5561 after BO,
defense = 28 after switch from 2xHOTO to empty,
75@ res in hell,

attacker is naked, only use Wolfhowl, 2x Wp, a trash magic plated belt for Mana pots, 2x HOTO, 144 str after wolfhowl, only anni as charm in bag,
every single attack is 100% Feral Rage, no normal attack because I kept drinking mana.
each timecode start from Feral rage animation start, to the exact frame on screen shows "A killed by B"

6xShael 1st: 24:11 sec
6xShael 2nd: 25:39 sec
6xShael 3rd: 23:24 sec
6xShael 4th: 26:47 sec
6xShael 5th: 23:45 sec
6xShael 6th: 25:31 sec
6xShael 7th: 23:51 sec
6xShael 8th: 24:22 sec
6xShael 9th: 25:24 sec
6xShael 10th: 22:51 sec


white PB 1st: 31:44 sec
white PB 2nd: 33:13 sec
white PB 3rd: 35:33 sec
white PB 4th: 40:57 sec
white PB 5th: 34:03 sec
white PB 6th: 38:51 sec
white PB 7th: 35:14 sec
white PB 8th: 36:09 sec
white PB 9th: 37:36 sec
white PB 10th: 36:49 sec
white PB 11th: 35:13 sec

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Actually I should test 2xShael (represent 31%-40% Grief), white PB (represent LW), 4x Shael (represent 4F pb), and 5x shael (real 3F, no need 6x shael)
but this test still shows that the main wp ias would affect ur dmg output

This post was edited by Ironboar on Jun 6 2021 01:04pm
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Jun 6 2021 01:45pm
Okay, well i only had 75 and 80ias wep to test with...

I can try make theese:
Death pb
Grief pb
God pb

I dno how to str bug this... I have to check my barb's full str. Since im eni build. I can try taking of bug belt and such.

Then i can test theese:
Elite hammer fools 300ed LoLo or 480ed etc
Death eth cb

Headshriker, is that str/dex buggable? Eth upped one with zod.
Full deadly strike without any adds, Nn for hl, can use 2/20fcr ammu or atma's/angelic etc.

20fcr gloves trangs
2/20fcr ammu
Arach
10fcr ring
Eth upped zod headshriker + 100ias/9str/9dex/7fhr/-15req
War travs
Wolfhowl
Eni

Thats a 0% dr 63fcr build...
Nah not possible since eth headshriker would be:
132str/102dex req.

Anyway:
Death eth cb = 176str req.
Barb starts at 30str
Torch annie 40str
Perf Wolfhowl = 15
Bug belt = 15
Enigma (0,75*clvl) (0,75 * 97 = 72)

72 + 30 + 40 + 15 = 157 without bug belt.
172 with bug belt. (174 if lvl 99)

So u can str bug eth elite cb/hammer with 100ias pb.

This post was edited by gel87 on Jun 6 2021 01:55pm
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Jun 6 2021 02:05pm
Eth Legendary mallet: average 55,5 dmg
2 soc (LoLo)
300ed
Fools
5ctc amp
20max
Self rep

55,5 * 1,5 * 4 + (20/2) + (48/2) = 367 average, 28k ar build with 5ctc amp. (40% ds)

Eth Legendary mallet cruel: average 55,5
2 soc LoLo
450ed
250ar
20max
5ctc amp
Self rep

55,5 * 1,5 * 5,5 + (20/2) = 467,5 average dmg with 5ctc amp. (40% ds)

If theese reaches same 3 frames i had yesterday it will be sic.

Yesterday sword was:
340ed/fools/eth/pb/5ctc amp (40/15 + shael)
150-300 ish dmg on that... So 225 average. And no 40% deadly strike.

Dno what best soc is between Lo and 40ed/15max soc.
I guess lo.
Other deadly strike sources are:
Hl 08 and gores (52%)

This post was edited by gel87 on Jun 6 2021 02:07pm
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Jun 6 2021 10:51pm
For pvp the easy way is going dex bug with phase blade. That way you can forget about str for the weapon and you can bug eni as allways.
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Jun 6 2021 11:20pm
What happening when i put on a cb sword with 0 or 40ias:
Animation attack fast, but it deals no dmg for like 50 hits, then pow 1 hit. XD

Pb 0 ias went fine.
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Jun 6 2021 11:27pm
I'm thinking about the new weapons that this bug improves. Schaefer's Hammer should now be at least decent.
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