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Jul 24 2007 03:04am
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Griffons dmg > Circlet damage unless its a 10/10 3/20/2

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+ I have never tested griffs wink.gif


anything with +2skills > griffons in terms of damage random. if you think griffons > +3lightskills you're the worst newbie i've ever seen. noob noob noob noob noob noob noob


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watch me care random, not my fault you're too fucking stupid to grasp math on the level of 1+1. you admit you never even tried griffons so what are you crying about? accept that i am right and bow slave.
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Griffons dmg > Circlet damage unless its a 10/10 3/20/2

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+ I have never tested griffs wink.gif


anything with +2skills > griffons in terms of damage random. if you think griffons > +3lightskills you're the worst newbie i've ever seen. noob noob noob noob noob noob noob


not only are you a new member to d2jsp, you're a new d2 player.


obviously you never tried griffons either ignorant, do you want me to spoon-feed you the reasons why +2skills>griff in terms of damage or are you just crying because you like it kid?

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Jul 24 2007 03:13am
i really hope thats not you in your pic undying...1 big problem your a sorc not to hard to stack res for it...
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Jul 24 2007 04:38am
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Quote (CorZor^ @ Fri, May 4 2007, 06:05am)
don't like it really, u never really tell people what is good, like "u will have between 85 - 95 ES", what's that for an answer?
and i don't see for what reason u decide to STAT into shiver armor... use memory 3es 3 shiver/Chilling, or cta 3es / 3 shiver/chilling...

Also, an amu with 7 fcr

and as u said 85-95% es, yet u say that they should stat exactly the same way in both builds? doesn't make sense either...

and u advise people to what, like 140 fcr? why just not skip the viper thing and go straight to YOUR OWN build, this is more like a rabbling of items more then a guide...
Also, if using coh now, i'd advise u rather to use: eschu, arach, 20 fcr helm any, spirit, +2% fcr amu, double sojs, coh, Treks (or high 10 fhr mana boots) frosts.

AND WHY, WHY are you telling people to use Griffons????????... possibly good for PvM, but that's about it


what you got against griffons i like my sorc having -25% lite res and 25%fcr boost. you suck.


Oh how i love the ignorance biggrin.gif

http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?act=ST&f=87&t=6030716&st=0#entry31155638

I'd strongly suggest anyone in this topic, to take a strong look at the guide instead of this one, as this one is filled with ignorance and the lack of experience that u need to make a strong light sorc build.

And i'm assuming it's the almighty Giff who's bruteforcing each and everyone of you in here, good job. Keep them imbeciles out of here.

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HAHA ty for acctually making me laugh ^^ plz when u've played a light sorc for more then about a month, u can probably remake this build, although it will still be so damaged and misleading to the people so what good does it do to anyone.

I am bound to stick with "Faggitors" arguement about griffon. your just horribly pathetic thinking Griffon is good for anything other then mf and pvm. Make your griffon build with the almight -25% resis, and i'll stack another 25 light res (which is so fucking easily doable on nightmare/hell) and show u the huge effect of this.

Omg i just get raged how people with absolutely no experience whatsoever can acctually think they can make a good guide.

and as a sidenot, as i'm guessing your not even aware of it, this so "HUGE" dmg boots from the 20% + lightdmg that comes from griffon.
Wow BIG gz for figuering that one out! just that u might have forgot about the fact that u alreay have about 620-650% enhanced light dmg, adding anther 20% is like pissing in a river and hope it gets overfilled.
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Jul 24 2007 04:41am
Quote (faggitor @ Tue, Jul 17 2007, 10:18am)
Quote (TheUndyingGod @ Sun, Jul 15 2007, 08:56pm)
Griffons dmg > Circlet damage unless its a 10/10 3/20/2

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+ I have never tested griffs wink.gif


anything with +2skills > griffons in terms of damage random. if you think griffons > +3lightskills you're the worst newbie i've ever seen. noob noob noob noob noob noob noob


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Jul 24 2007 04:58am
Quote (CorZor^ @ Tue, Jul 24 2007, 10:38am)

Make your griffon build with the almight -25% resis, and i'll stack another 25 light res (which is so fucking easily doable on nightmare/hell) and show u the huge effect of this.

and as a sidenot, as i'm guessing your not even aware of it, this so "HUGE" dmg boots from the 20% + lightdmg that comes from griffon.
Wow BIG gz for figuering that one out! just that u might have forgot about the fact that u alreay have about 620-650% enhanced light dmg, adding anther 20% is like pissing in a river and hope it gets overfilled.


thanks, saved me some work of mouth feeding this to the pigfuckers myself =)
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Jul 24 2007 05:20pm
Quote (faggitor @ Tue, 24 Jul 2007, 11:58)
Quote (CorZor^ @ Tue, Jul 24 2007, 10:38am)

Make your griffon build with the almight -25% resis, and i'll stack another 25 light res (which is so fucking easily doable on nightmare/hell) and show u the huge effect of this.

and as a sidenot, as i'm guessing your not even aware of it, this so "HUGE" dmg boots from the 20% + lightdmg that comes from griffon.
Wow BIG gz for figuering that one out! just that u might have forgot about the fact that u alreay have about 620-650% enhanced light dmg, adding anther 20% is like pissing in a river and hope it gets overfilled.


thanks, saved me some work of mouth feeding this to the pigfuckers myself =)


np, the pleasure was all on my side smile.gif
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Jul 26 2007 02:41pm
I think you have a pretty nice guide for es.
Corz's guide is for a vita built, which is also a good kind of build.

One of the things that I'm not sure I agreeed with was max block - I think that mb is absolutely vital for es sorcs especially when dueling paladins (charge can be blocked), zons (strafe would take down your mana fast) and bvcs.
Whistans is a good choice of a shield but up'd visc, with the extra few points in dex, adds damage as well. 1k damage is better than 100 mana. xD

good job biggrin.gif
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Jul 26 2007 03:48pm
Quote (Tappity @ Thu, Jul 26 2007, 08:41pm)
I think you have a pretty nice guide for es


no sorry it isn't.

I don't like it at all.

+2 circ > griffon anytime
Rare amulet > Maras
Hoto >> Eschutas

if you'd always take option 1 you'd get like 0 life replenish happy.gif

your guide is like a puzzle: you need 125 Fcr, so chose some of the items i listed.

1.3k life and 4k mana is low btw, Corzor^'s guide is 100 times better, sorry.

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Jul 26 2007 04:06pm
Quote (Tappity @ Thu, 26 Jul 2007, 21:41)
I think you have a pretty nice guide for es.
Corz's guide is for a vita built, which is also a good kind of build.

One of the things that I'm not sure I agreeed with was max block - I think that mb is absolutely vital for es sorcs especially when dueling paladins (charge can be blocked), zons (strafe would take down your mana fast) and bvcs.
Whistans is a good choice of a shield but up'd visc, with the extra few points in dex, adds damage as well. 1k damage is better than 100 mana. xD

good job biggrin.gif


and if u scroll down few steps on my guide, u will find one of the better es maxblock existing for a light sorc.

@Gutzel biggrin.gif exactly my point which i've told him several times in this thread ^^
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