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Jan 11 2012 02:18am
Quote (marvel. @ Jan 7 2012 10:05pm)
you need 6% leech to see hits pvp

iirc 1.09 only had 5%, so the new one is better


This guy

Needs to hop on East and duel
After everything I've heard about him :hail:
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Jan 12 2012 06:25pm
Great guide man,i almost made this ama :)

This post was edited by Marioulino on Jan 12 2012 06:26pm
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Great guide man,i almost made this ama :)


Great signature

I actually thought there was a bug on my screen for a second

I was about to :sniper:
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Jan 16 2012 03:08am
Hello there! I am enjoying your guide/build even more everyday!

I have a few questions:

1. Your opinion on Doom runeword?

2. My current lvl is 95 and I am 1 skill point into making passive skill dodge 58 to 59. Can I not place any points into valk and do that (any backfires for certain duels/match up)? I will still have decoy.

3. Should i get more dex to max block with swordback shield?
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Quote (Vansonbee @ Jan 16 2012 04:08am)
Hello there! I am enjoying your guide/build even more everyday!

I have a few questions:

1. Your opinion on Doom runeword?

2. My current lvl  is 95 and I am 1 skill point into making passive skill dodge 58 to 59. Can I not place any points into valk and do that (any backfires for certain duels/match up)? I will still have decoy.

3. Should i get more dex to max block with swordback shield?



1. Holy Freeze is BM vs. Amazons or anything that does not use Teleport for that matter

2. You'll want base lv 1 Valkyrie, always. Valkyrie is actually very important for distracting certain attacks such as Guide Arrows in ZvZ or Lightning Sentrys in ZvT

3. I wouldn't worry about maxing block with Swordback unless you, (A) Have it upgraded and (B) Plan on using it in ZvZ. Otherwise, just keep lower block on Swordback. As it's mostly used for EShield anyway

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Jan 16 2012 11:49am
Quote (Habakkuk22 @ Jan 16 2012 08:08am)
1. Holy Freeze is BM vs. Amazons or anything that does not use Teleport for that matter

2. You'll want base lv 1 Valkyrie, always. Valkyrie is actually very important for distracting certain attacks such as Guide Arrows in ZvZ or Lightning Sentrys in ZvT

3. I wouldn't worry about maxing block with Swordback unless you, (A) Have it upgraded and (B) Plan on using it in ZvZ. Otherwise, just keep lower block on Swordback. As it's mostly used for EShield anyway
Thank you.

In zon vs zon, is Lacerator bm w/ swordback or should I use titans + swordback?

Same with es Sorces?

and it seem I have to place 11 strength into using Storm shield + Lacerator together (w/ gear, I can hold everything w/o putting any to strength, except Lacerator + SS combo).
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Jan 16 2012 12:01pm
What about Stygian instead of matri, they give more dmg.
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Jan 16 2012 12:28pm
Quote (HlebII @ Jan 16 2012 07:01pm)
What about Stygian instead of matri, they give more dmg.


damage is virtually the same tbh on most builds.. and matri's have a WSM of -10 compared to 0 on stygians which makes it easier to hit ias bp's.
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Jan 16 2012 01:49pm
Quote (Habakkuk22 @ Jan 11 2012 03:18am)
This guy

Needs to hop on East and duel
After everything I've heard about him  :hail:


Steve could 4v1 on a zon.

He was part of a group that has known all the stuff we're learning since before most of us got serious about pvp.

The fact of the matter was he didn't ever lose much and played every character about as well as it could be played.

Not dick riding him he was just ridiculous.

Very nice guide well put together bro.

I may have to have some fun pks with ya when i get back in a couple of weeks. I have a c/c on nl and nek still :D
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Jan 17 2012 06:58am
Quote (Vansonbee @ Jan 16 2012 12:49pm)
Thank you.

In zon vs zon, is Lacerator bm w/ swordback or should I use titans + swordback?

Same with es Sorces?

and it seem I have to place 11 strength into using Storm shield + Lacerator together (w/ gear, I can hold everything w/o putting any to strength, except Lacerator + SS combo).


In ZvZ you'll need to use java/shield
Lacerator is considered BM in every ruleset so you'll only really be using it in pub games when you need to BM a game

In ZvS (Sorcs with EShield), You'll be using Java/Swordback to be GM and Lacerator/Swordback if you want to BM


Quote (HlebII @ Jan 16 2012 01:01pm)
What about Stygian instead of matri, they give more dmg.


Stygian is too slow, Jeebus is 100% correct


Quote (Egardner @ Jan 16 2012 02:49pm)
Steve could 4v1 on a zon.

He was part of a group that has known all the stuff we're learning since before most of us got serious about pvp.

The fact of the matter was he didn't ever lose much and played every character about as well as it could be played.

Not dick riding him he was just ridiculous.

Very nice guide well put together bro.

I may have to have some fun pks with ya when i get back in a couple of weeks. I have a c/c on nl and nek still :D



Sounds good
Hopfully you can catch me before I have to take a break of my own
It's lookin like I'll be getting an opportunity at some out of town work myself

This post was edited by Habakkuk22 on Jan 17 2012 06:59am
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