Quote (Azn Masta @ Jul 26 2011 11:35am)

I use a 113 Dex Required Feral claw, I will have to stat some dex anyways...

Let me do this for my character specific: If I use gores, I will not need to stat points (I currently have ~9Points into Strength to use spirit). But I will lose 25 Dex. Adding in the 15Dex ring instead of the Str one (I will have 132Str/146 for eth spirit), I will end up using 15 total stat points (14str, 1dex) for a total of 45 life

If I were to use 2x 12fhr/shadow Grand Charms, I would end up switching out my 2x 45 life Shadow GCs instead of all the 32020s. 6x 32020s = 120life, 2x 45 = 90life. Then I will lose another 20life from the loss of a SC for a 3/20/5fhr, but keep my ar.

90+20+45 = 155 Life (Before Bo). After BO, I estimate I will lose around 250-300life?

I would keep my UmUm Fools, and gain the benefits from Gores. I think with 37% from highlords and 15% from gores that will be enough. If i need more, I could always just slap on the gface (and switch on 2x 45s + 32020 to get my life back)


Pros:
+15% CB
+15% DS
+10% OW

Cons:
-250-300Life
-2 Shadow Skills (Block and DR may suffer)
-Kick damage

I would have to test them and see how they work out... but from the looks of it, doesn't seem TOO bad... However, how much will the extra 15% here and there help me is the question O.o Unless you plan on keeping circlet on 24/7, gface, already offers 35% CB (1/3 hits) and 15% DS (37+15 = 52%, Crit = 23%)

Quote (tudey @ Jul 26 2011 02:54pm)

no i asked without eni and with that current setup

but yea it seems to be 103 although 93 without chaos
you had 9 statted str?

Quote (Azn Masta @ 26 Jul 2011 19:52)

yea you deff bring up a VERY valuable point here...

And if i use this as my main AND gvg setup, I would not have to worry about statting those 2 points to cover up for the loss of shadow dancers as i'll be using circlet. the 2points from circlet, makes up for the 2points lost from dancers.

Quote (MoXeR @ Jul 26 2011 12:01pm)

ahhh I see u had these stacked for the case you swap it in

anyways thats my oppinion on that
I also tested arround gores on a hybsin but that wasnt possibile cause of the lower dmg and the limited points
but on a ghost i would defenatly go for the gores

Quote (MoXeR @ Jul 26 2011 03:01pm)

ahhh I see u had these stacked for the case you swap it in

anyways thats my oppinion on that
I also tested arround gores on a hybsin but that wasnt possibile cause of the lower dmg and the limited points
but on a ghost i would defenatly go for the gores

Quote (Azn Masta @ Jul 26 2011 12:03pm)

yea you bring up a good point, i will have  to try this out on a victim:

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Quote (Bryant @ Jul 26 2011 12:03pm)

Gores on a hybrid sin blows ass.

Quote (Azn Masta @ 26 Jul 2011 21:58)

enigma is mageplate (which is like 55 or something str to wear) so it is ALWAYS on.

i cant count chaos cuz i need to bo without it. so it looks like 132/146 (for spirit) 14 points into strength needed

Quote (Bryant @ 26 Jul 2011 20:03)

Gores on a hybrid sin blows ass.

Quote (MoXeR @ Jul 26 2011 03:06pm)

didnt say anything else
just said that I have personal preferance here

Edit origin post:
lost: 110 hard life and 25 dex (equals 75 effectiv life)

Quote (Azn Masta @ Jul 26 2011 12:16pm)

in my case specific like i said, if i choose your set up i would end up not using gface at all.

this let me keep my ar and skills constant despite the loss of dancers

the only change would be:
1) loss of ability to swap to gface (35% CB, 15% DS) vs barbs and ghost v ghost
2) loss of ~300ish life overall
3) loss of kick damage (not much of a diff)
4) loss of a very small amount of ww damage from decrease of strength

1) gain of 15% DS
2) gain of 10% OW
3) gain of 15% CB