yes, my second ama is exactly like this.
tele bow psn ama is efficient too ofc but the spirit is completly different than in this Hackzone's guide.
Even if tele psn bow is really funny to play and cheapest to make, I prefer by far this Hackzone more balanced with jav/bow/psn;
she is better for pvall...if enemy use anti-dote our tele psn bow got a big problem...right ?

This post was edited by Sebounet on Aug 5 2011 04:22pm

I've played many variants on tribrid zons and I'm a bit confused with your charm choice.

When you decide to turn a pure bower into a hybrid, it is to cover the weaknesses of the bower. In this case: Chars with tanking ability that you can't easily escape (because of tele/charge ect..)

Plague is a great choice to dispatch of these chars. All it takes is one hit then keep running.

But: 30k plague is only effective vs low life casters. Any druid / pali / barb can last a long time in hell while poisoned with a 30k plague (even considering the psn length in hell)

I personally would switch in 5-6 Jav skillers with either frw/life. this should bring your plague up to around 44-50k. Enough to bring most higher life chars to 1hp before you die.

You're only going to loose around 300-400 max dmg in sc's.

GCs only rock out 7% run
3x SCs front 9%
or GC - 45 life
as compared to 3x SCs - 60 life
that's why


Besides, he's a hybrid, not a poison zon
Phys damage works all around, not just for plague javelin


Teleporting amazons do not work against any caster who knows how to namelock and chain
Amazons only reach 11 frame cast speed at 152% fcr, which is absolute shit
and wearing the gear to achieve this 11 frames, destroys your ability to maintain sound damage and IAS

Don't use teleport on amazons



This post was edited by Habakkuk22 on Aug 17 2011 04:19pm

Im not sure you understood what i was asking...

He's not really a hybrid with 30k plague. He's a bower with a rarely used semi-weak secondary attack. He's geared like a bower. His charms are like a bower.
If you switch out some sc's for SKILL gc's then the damage on plague makes it actually functional against the chars that trouble a normal bower... The gain far outweighs the losses.

Once again you have misunderstood what I said.... how? Where did I even bring up anything about a tele-ing amazon? And also everything you mentioned about them is incorrect.

Are you retarded?
My response was not just to you, it was also to the guy who mentioned teleportation on amazons

This is correct:
152% FCR does make 11 frame cast on amazons:




Furthermore, this is all also correct:
* GCs do only get 7% run as a suffix
* SCs do indeed get only 3% run/walk (or 5% with .08s), individually. 3x SCs = 9% run, or 15% run if (if you have .08s)
* GCs really do add a maximum of +45 life
* SCs truthfully do only add +20 life per SC, 3x SCs = 60 life

It is also correct that amazons share the lowest cast speed in the game, which means you will not escape fast casters with your teleporting amazon:


Sorcs begin play (naked) with 13 frame cast
9 brings them to 12fpa
20 brings them to 11fpa (already as fast as the amazon with 152 cast, which = 11 frame for amazons)
37 brings them to 10
63 brings them to 9
105 brings them to 8 (this is the standard and most commonly used bp for sorc teleportation and it is twice as fast as 11 frame cast)
200 brings them to 7 (yes, they teleport as fast as you fire a faith bow)

Barbs use the same BPs as sorcs and necs/druids/palys arent' far behind

Point being, you'll die on your teleporting amazon vs casters/barbs who knows how to use namelock/chaining

And please explain to me how you are going to achieve 152% FCR on an amazon withought using the TMC hack
while still maintaining anywhere near max IAS/fpa?
I'm serious, please explain it, go ahead and give me a list of items that you'd use
because it sure as hell isn't going to include 45/120 diadem, 60/160 armor, cats eye and 20% knockback gloves


I think the real question is, what the hell was it that you misunderstood?

This post was edited by Habakkuk22 on Aug 17 2011 04:59pm

Silly of my to think you were reply to me, after quoting my sentence.

I mean you're incorrect in saying 'Don't use teleport on amazons'
The strongest amazon builds hands down have teleport. Don't argue back with me on this, just pm Arelax or another top zon dueler. Hence why Tele is banned in ZvZ....ever wonder why?
But no zon would ever aim for 152fcr....
Good zons use a simbiotic relationship between decent frw and tele. Normally 68frc is fine.
Getting 68fcr doesn't barely detract anything from a zon's stats while adding infinitely more.


I never argued against your charm logic, I was talking about the exact same thigng. But all I wanted to switch in was some Skill gc's....

Ofcourse all your ias/fcr/fhr tables are correct, and I'm not sure why you're posting them all here.

"because it sure as hell isn't going to include 45/120 diadem, 60/160 armor, cats eye and 20% knockback gloves" ---not sure why I would need 145 ias...

Rofl http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=42448063&f=147&o=5575

Not sure why posting the ZvZ ladder has any relevance..? Talking about zons with tele obviously negates inclusion with zvz...

To mozpoll:
Want to replace some scs vs some GC java for increase plague psn is a bad idea here.
30k psn plague / 15 sec is enought vs ES and hurt enought lot of chars.
Scs is the best way for boost your:
- resist
- frw
- life
- max damage
Dont forget this ama is tri-hybride one abble to hurt in all situations,
according to the enemy locating:
- long range: bow with GA (ghost if possible)
- middle range: MS or Straffe with bow or LB/Fury with Jav
- short range: plague psn (run in Cloud)
- melee: Jab
All these attack hurt enought for kill little by little