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Aug 28 2010 06:36pm
Quote (prickster @ Aug 21 2010 08:23am)
guide fucking blows, doesn't tell you the pros/cons of each set up

it's just a giant list, whoop de do


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Added this in on the second Page. Will be added to the first page once I remake the guide. Looking for some more feedback to see what else is missing before I remake, so that I can get it perfect next time. Thanks for the feedback.



Why would you choose one build over the other?

The key to Melee is using the right setup verse your opponent. Depending on what your opponent is using, you may need more AR, or more defense, or less AR; allowing you to have more damage, etc

What is the difference between the ar/defense/damage/life between each build?
I won't give exact numbers to reveal my characters stats.. but I can give some rough ideas of what to use when. I do plan on making some generic screenshots in the near future, since they seem to be at a high demand.

10frame fort-- Very high damage, High AR, Lower attack speed. this is best to use verse other slow attacking concers

9frame fort--- High Damage, lower AR, Higher Attack speed this is best to use against zealers using Levi or Fort, because their defense wont be too high and they hit frequent, so the fast attack speed will help. This would also work well against jabbers or furies

10frame Prudence -- Very high defense, High AR, decent damage This is good against non angelic barbs.

9frame Prudence-- Very high defense, high AR, decent damage This is good against non angelic zealers.

E uppd B hades-- Good defense, very high AR, decent damage This build puts you in the 9th frame, and works best against zealers with prude or shaft, because they will have higher defense and you would need to use angelics to crack it. This also works well against barbs with high defense (prude or other bhades builds)

Steel Cara-- This build puts you in the 9th frame, and works best against zealers using levi or fort, because your AR will be lower but again attack speed up.

Gvalor-- This is one of the most rounded builds and I use it in almost all situations, but the AR may be too low to crack some Prudence builds.


Which build counters which build? You say the strategy is using the right build at the right time, list some examples.

^^ explained above

What's the difference between 9 frame and 10 frame attacks?
9 frame attacks are faster, you do 2.7 attacks per second. 10 frame 2.5 per second. Briefly explained above, in order to attain the 9th frame, you have to sacrifice damage, AR, or Defense, but sometimes its very necessary to be able to attack faster.

This post was edited by Biglouy on Aug 28 2010 06:38pm
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Aug 30 2010 07:15pm
I've done some tests o_O

vis with ecruel weps isn't good. o_O

but with arreats or gulliumes it works super good.
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Aug 30 2010 07:34pm
Quote (LilNeko @ Aug 30 2010 09:15pm)
I've done some tests o_O

vis with ecruel weps isn't good. o_O

but with arreats or gulliumes it works super good.


Told ya :P

Glad you're finding some success tho.
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Aug 30 2010 08:46pm
Quote (OSUpride1 @ Aug 30 2010 06:34pm)
Told ya :P

Glad you're finding some success tho.


Well.vis helms works great but u need like 96+ to make it work.
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Aug 30 2010 08:52pm
Quote (LilNeko @ Aug 30 2010 09:46pm)
Well.vis helms works great but u need like 96+ to make it work.


Yeah Arreats is so good. Its hard to beat. Like I said :D and your loosing 50 str 50 dex and 30 vita pts with the Vis+ cruel combo.
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Aug 30 2010 09:28pm
Quote (Biglouy @ Aug 30 2010 07:52pm)
Yeah Arreats is so good. Its hard to beat. Like I said :D and your loosing 50 str 50 dex and 30 vita pts with the Vis+ cruel combo.


Yeah..but with eth fools+vis it works great but eth cruels+vis it sucks

idk why lol.
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Quote (LilNeko @ Aug 30 2010 10:28pm)
Yeah..but with eth fools+vis it works great but eth cruels+vis it sucks

idk why lol.


yeah haha Melee is also a lot of chance. Extensive testing should be done before you decide whats better. I'm sure you know this ;) just don't make your decisions based on a set or 2.
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Aug 30 2010 09:44pm
Quote (Biglouy @ Aug 30 2010 08:32pm)
yeah haha Melee is also a lot of chance. Extensive testing should be done before you decide whats better. I'm sure you know this ;) just don't make your decisions based on a set or 2.


I've make my decission more like twice O.O

i did ladder match with it and ehh.lol

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vn guide louy!
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