Well in any situation you certainly need to find one not made by him and sit the fuck down.
...LOL

phys dmge 2x > phys + fire

Not in the way it should be used. Bear is useless in a physical aspect on a Nado druid.

this is why I don't advise shamans for people like you.
The advantage of fire + summoning is tactics, not numbers. A hammerdin has an 18k damage attack. But he can't hit shit with it

Tornado & Grizzly are both melee range attacks, and thus a druid that used both would have no long ranged attacks. He'd still be utterly useless against trappers, campers, etc, like a wind druid is. You'd end up just using tornado all the time and the grizzly would be pointless. With a shaman, you have two long ranged attacks (fissure / volcano), along with 'ultra blaze' (geddon), all covering your ranged niche.


let me put it this way: FOH does less damage than Impale, and its lightning instead of physical, but which would you rather use in PvP?

This post was edited by deathwinger on Aug 11 2009 05:24pm

..nice edit.
And a Nado druid is far from useless against trappers.

i like to make references to impale when I can, and I thought his tiny brain might mistake "Power Strike" for "Charged Strike", or as I call it, Charged Stroke

but trappers > windies, sorry sir.

Druids > Hammerdins, but that doesn't mean you're useless on a well played hammerdin against druids.

correct, but windys are useless against trappers.

Theres a few difficult matchups like bowa vs smiter, ghost vs bvc, etc, that while clearly favoring one side are still winnable
but windy vs trapper is probably the most unfair matchup there is. Specially fire trapper

This post was edited by deathwinger on Aug 11 2009 05:33pm

i understand the range issue. But its still unsorbable and you still got that initial hit on tele.

Question though since your very knowledgeable with shamans, would 1 pt volcano fhr/fbr just as well as a synergized one for the most part?

and dont need to be a jerk about answering questions that are viable.

This post was edited by Soccergoal10 on Aug 11 2009 05:38pm

You're an idiot with pub beliefs. DvT is FAR from un-winnable.