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Jul 26 2015 10:54am
Quote (ToughGuy_TJ @ Jul 26 2015 01:03am)
Death is BM on east so we dont really build around it but..

With a non fools weapon you definitely need to use angelics so there is no getting away from that

I would not recommend using a CoA at all, A viso dia would be best, or perhaps a DS viso armet but if you must use CoA then try a crafted OW belt- something like high defense 10OW 24FHR 30str etc

I would not use shaft in a NT setup, if you don't like fort, try prudence and see if you like that

don't forget that w/o a raven you'll need to incorporate a cham rune in a socket


i concur.

and let me ask another age old question.
how much FHR is required by a zealot for zeal v zeal, zeal v baba, zeal v dudu, and for fun, zeal v jabz?

and 1400th page. The amount of posts here is way too high.
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Jul 26 2015 10:57am
Quote (hengster @ Jul 26 2015 06:54pm)
i concur.

and let me ask another age old question.
how much FHR is required by a zealot for zeal v zeal, zeal v baba, zeal v dudu, and for fun, zeal v jabz?

and 1400th page. The amount of posts here is way too high.


page 280 it is
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Jul 28 2015 12:01am
Quote (ToughGuy_TJ @ Jul 25 2015 11:03am)
Death is BM on east so we dont really build around it but..

With a non fools weapon you definitely need to use angelics so there is no getting away from that

I would not recommend using a CoA at all, A viso dia would be best, or perhaps a DS viso armet but if you must use CoA then try a crafted OW belt- something like high defense 10OW 24FHR 30str etc

I would not use shaft in a NT setup, if you don't like fort, try prudence and see if you like that

don't forget that w/o a raven you'll need to incorporate a cham rune in a socket


This man knows his stuff. :thumbsup:

Quote (F2001 @ Jul 25 2015 08:45pm)
Possibly overlooking something, I wouldn't need a cham in NT, right? Especially since exile bm on west.


If they have a source of cold dmg (like from a ravenfrost) you'll freeze which is why the cham is still necessary.

Quote (hengster @ Jul 26 2015 10:54am)
i concur.

and let me ask another age old question.
how much FHR is required by a zealot for zeal v zeal, zeal v baba, zeal v dudu, and for fun, zeal v jabz?

and 1400th page. The amount of posts here is way too high.


Imo fhr isn't something to worry about in gm melee. Since zeal is uninterruptible fhr only comes into play between zeal volleys which is why even going with 0 fhr is fine. Shako setup doesn't hit any fhr bps and doesn't have a problem most of the time.

And there aren't enough posts yet imo ^_^

This post was edited by dark-soul on Jul 28 2015 12:07am
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Jul 29 2015 08:19pm
Quote (hengster @ Jul 26 2015 11:54am)
i concur.

and let me ask another age old question.
how much FHR is required by a zealot for zeal v zeal, zeal v baba, zeal v dudu, and for fun, zeal v jabz?

and 1400th page. The amount of posts here is way too high.


heng, you still play?
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Jul 29 2015 08:59pm
Quote (Chased @ Jul 29 2015 08:19pm)
heng, you still play?


Not enough since he let several chars with gg items (that he could have given to me) expire :angry:
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Jul 29 2015 10:33pm
I rebooted d2 this week. Only char left is zon, but I started a new pally.
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Quote (Chased @ Jul 29 2015 10:33pm)
I rebooted d2 this week. Only char left is zon, but I started a new pally.


Ah well sorry to hear you lost a lot but great to have you back! :thumbsup:
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Aug 2 2015 04:31am
RIP my 08 amazon with all the godlies :(

anyway, been dueling non-tap in PN which nowadays has more conc and fury than zeal.
not bad though i hope for more tap duels, that's the whole point of the high price of 2os pally viso diadems!

regarding previous question on FHR noted and will experiment a bit to confirm it, with first breakpoint 7% (dungos 10%) and second breakpoint 15% (3max/20ar/5%fhr sc).

another question on maxing life for zealots. it seems like a given to max life as much as possible, but how much is the trade-off between strength (damage), dexterity (attack rating) and vitality (life) really worth?
what's the real value of each stat point type, and ideal case for zeal v zeal?
asking a hard to answer question, but wonder if someone did any in-depth analysis on it.
i know you always recommend just enough str for gear and dex for max block, but is there any other better way?

would be nice to know the ideal stat way, instead of just going for max vita like all other d2 chars.
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Aug 2 2015 11:21am
would some kind of hybrid physical+dual dream zealot be good?

just theorycrafting it it seems very good killer-

edeath zerker
gores
highlords

65 cb, 100~ ds
can add steelrends for another 10 cb

dream hat/shield

another 5k+ lit dmg per swing

can run infinity merc

only crummy thing about this build is coming up with the 60 ias
20 from ammy
40 from ????
will need to use either 3x ias jewels in an armor or a 20 ias glove and 2 ias jewels in an armor

with dual dreams and max lit res you will have 95 lit resist as a bonus too

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