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Sep 18 2009 09:53am
Ty perfect guide !

Ill make one of these after ladder reset :thumbsup:

And my bro is going for the Vindicator ;)
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Sep 18 2009 10:20am
perfect job ,omg
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Sep 18 2009 11:41am
Ive got a few questions.

First, what is your recommended TvT setup? and second, is a pure trapper, definitly better in TvT ?
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Sep 18 2009 12:06pm
Quote (Sapientos @ Fri, Sep 18 2009, 12:41pm)
Ive got a few questions.

First, what is your recommended TvT setup? and second, is a pure trapper, definitly better in TvT ?


pure trappers can be a hard fight especially if your not aggressive. Oni may have different advice but I find a jah shako setup gives a nice life boost and allows you alittle more room for maneuvering. Ow ww drive bys are also a great for bleeding a trapper. It can be a hard fight though.
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Sep 18 2009 12:10pm
Quote (Sapientos @ Fri, Sep 18 2009, 01:41pm)
Ive got a few questions.

First, what is your recommended TvT setup? and second, is a pure trapper, definitly better in TvT ?


by tvt i assume you mean team vs team like most people and not trap vs trap right?

i normally use use my regular setup and wear a sorb ring or something if needed for tvt. i rarely switch to 102 unless i feel the need to in that rare situation...

as for tvt...well in team vs team trappers tend to do better becuse the role of a sin is to stun while chars like necros amp and barbs/druids do the killing. the sin acts as a defense buffer (traps shield) to keep people away and mindblast to stun for your team to kill. a wwsin kills MUCH slowaer and less effective than a barb/druid when your opponent is amped. and trappers have max mindblast and more damage traps as well as guaranteed 102fcr (at least the tvt ones do).
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Sep 18 2009 12:28pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Fri, Sep 18 2009, 01:10pm)
by tvt i assume you mean team vs team like most people and not trap vs trap right?

i normally use use my regular setup and wear a sorb ring or something if needed for tvt. i rarely switch to 102 unless i feel the need to in that rare situation...

as for tvt...well in team vs team trappers tend to do better becuse the role of a sin is to stun while chars like necros amp and barbs/druids do the killing. the sin acts as a defense buffer (traps shield) to keep people away and mindblast to stun for your team to kill. a wwsin kills MUCH slowaer and less effective than a barb/druid when your opponent is amped. and trappers have max mindblast and more damage traps as well as guaranteed 102fcr (at least the tvt ones do).


lol wow I guess i do need my morning coffee. total miss lol. was thinking trap v trap damn.
as for team v team I like a widow on my switch or my prebuff claws. widowmaker is great for forcing players to go on the offense and if you dont have to wsm it can work well. just switch back as soon as the opponent is in ls range.
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lol wow I guess i do need my morning coffee. total miss lol. was thinking trap v trap damn.
as for team v team I like a widow on my switch or my prebuff claws. widowmaker is great for forcing players to go on the offense and if you dont have to wsm it can work well. just switch back as soon as the opponent is in ls range.


Errr that's in pub 4v4s and stuff. Right off the bat I can already see how your style can be a problem in tvt

1) if u are spamming arrows then you aren't setting up for stunning. Like I said a sin should sit back and keep a shield of traps out to protect their teammates OR play offensive and go in for the stun. Also as a sin u don't have much life and should u get hit whole bow is out. It prob means 50% or mote life is gone
2) if u use bow or buff claws u can't have cta/doldoldoldol shield on switch. That means no Bo and no life rep. Noob tvts go by fast by in a tourny or vs a team who really wants to win ull end up needing the Bo and rep a lot more that that bow. Specially If it's a 2v2 or something and u are the only one left on your team alive
3) there was 1 more but I forgot it while I was typing the others >.<

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Errr that's in pub 4v4s and stuff. Right off the bat I can already see how your style can be a problem in tvt

1) if u are spamming arrows then you aren't setting up for stunning. Like I said a sin should sit back and keep a shield of traps out to protect their teammates OR play offensive and go in for the stun. Also as a sin u don't have much life and should u get hit whole bow is out. It prob means 50% or mote life is gone
2) if u use bow or buff claws u can't have cta/doldoldoldol shield on switch. That means no Bo and no life rep. Noob tvts go by fast by in a tourny or vs a team who really wants to win ull end up needing the Bo and rep a lot more that that bow. Specially If it's a 2v2 or something and u are the only one left on your team alive
3) there was 1 more but I forgot it while I was typing the others >.<


and while you sit back in defensive play defense you can arrow spam before ls range is active. my 3v3 has not lost a single match since we started as a team, though we have yet to compete with non ladder teams. when it comes to team play each team will have its own still and I have never been caught with a bow out so your criticism may work for some rand but our tactics work wonders for us so no need to judge. but was a good try.

it should also be noted that you actually even tell people to use prebuff claws on tvt so wuts with the hypocrisy?
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• Bramble/Pre buff venom gear. (6+ venom claws w/ 2x psn facets. Good for team duels where you have someone else to BO for you)

ego got your tongue?

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and while you sit back in defensive play defense you can arrow spam before ls range is active. my 3v3 has not lost a single match since we started as a team, though we have yet to compete with non ladder teams. when it comes to team play each team will have its own still and I have never been caught with a bow out so your criticism may work for some rand but our tactics work wonders for us so no need to judge. but was a good try.

it  should also be noted that you actually even tell people to use prebuff claws on tvt so wuts with the hypocrisy?

ego got your tongue?


um it works.... just not godly. for an 09 ladder player you shouldnt even try to start. Explaining the reasoning behind buff claws to someone who bases off a guide 100% is much easier than trying to explain the concept of how long a tvt duel can actually last - its pointless because they dont duel at that level so they will never have to experience that problem and thus buff claws make the duel easier/faster

havnt lost a single match eh? well...remember that ladder = realm for mf and nonladder = realm for pvp. If you compete with a whole bunch of other bad duelers then ofc you may think you're the shit when you can beat them. So ill mention this once again like i said to every ladder rand who thinks they're top shit..... when your ladder resets and you actually duel more people than you little pvm ladder circle.. you can start to get an attitude

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Quote (Azn Masta @ Fri, 18 Sep 2009, 18:31)
um it works.... just not godly. for an 09 ladder player you shouldnt even try to start. Explaining the reasoning behind buff claws to someone who bases off a guide 100% is much easier than trying to explain the concept of how long a tvt duel can actually last - its pointless because they dont duel at that level so they will never have to experience that problem and thus buff claws make the duel easier/faster

havnt lost a single match eh? well...remember that ladder = realm for mf and nonladder = realm for pvp. If you compete with a whole bunch of other bad duelers then ofc you may think you're the shit when you can beat them. So ill mention this once again like i said to every ladder rand who thinks they're top shit..... when your ladder resets and you actually duel more people than you little pvm ladder circle.. you can start to get an attitude


What does his join date here have to do with anything? You've had a scammer tag before if I recall correctly, this clearly means something must be wrong with how you duel!?!?!
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