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Jul 21 2013 11:47pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Jul 21 2013 10:28pm)
Then whoever was slightly faster wins the shift battle.



Fire res is because of torch, but most people ignore it anyway.


what if they do it at the same time ?

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Jul 22 2013 12:23am
Quote (Me0w @ Jul 22 2013 01:47am)
what if they do it at the same time ?


Then it's a factor of ar/def/block/95% cth cap etc. Outside of that, it is possible for two characters to hit at the same time.

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Jul 23 2013 03:09pm
Quote (dark-soul @ Jul 21 2013 09:43pm)
Here you go Mokuba. I'm obviously not statted for non tap on my zealot but here's a rough idea.

http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff356/laxplr0088/Screenshot008_zps03f116d3.jpg

Shako
Shaft
ealma
Edc
Angelics
Verdungos
20 Ias gloves
upd gores

37x 32020s

http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff356/laxplr0088/Screenshot007_zps02daa32a.jpg

80/30 pally vis
eprud
cham ss
steelrends
verdungos
edc
angelics
upd gores

37x 32020s


Thank you and yeah this looks like it was statted for all setups.
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Jul 23 2013 05:00pm
Hey Dark. I'm sure within the 1400 pages of this awesome guide, a similar question has been answered.

Here is the setup I'm thinking about.
280 edc---40/294 fools zerker (zod) for switch
623 def 2 os eth rep bv visionary (cham/ber)
2403 e upd shaft (zod)
140/40/15 dungo
Perfect E vortex exile
2x nice 100+ ar/20+ str/10+dex/50+ life rings
highlords
213 gores
Gloves: I'm up in the air. Should I stat 40 stats to be able to use rends? should I use dracs? Should I use my 184 def 20 ias 15 str 11 dex cold/light res gloves?


Also, generally how many hard points need to be statted for a zealot?

This post was edited by Motion on Jul 23 2013 05:08pm
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Jul 23 2013 05:56pm
Dark is bad.

1. You should stat your build with rends/rare gloves because you are using edc/fools zerk.

2. don't use 2x rare rings, that's awful idea, either 2x ravens or 1x raven and 1x rare ring and angelics set for edc

3. You should use find extra visionary for your fools zerk maybe find pally vis with 15/11 stats. so you can use rends. rends are extremely important for fools weps but if you can use dracs if your low in strength though.
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Jul 23 2013 05:59pm
Quote (Neko @ Jul 23 2013 07:56pm)
Dark is bad.

1. You should stat your build with rends/rare gloves because you are using edc/fools zerk.

2. don't use 2x rare rings, that's awful idea, either 2x ravens or 1x raven and 1x rare ring and angelics set for edc

3. You should use find extra visionary for your fools zerk maybe find pally vis with 15/11 stats. so you can use rends. rends are extremely important for fools weps but if you can use dracs if your low in strength though.


Thanks for the input. I assumed that since I have a cham/ber'd vis, the str saved/50+ life on a ring would be helpful
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Jul 23 2013 06:02pm
Quote (Motion @ Jul 23 2013 04:59pm)
Thanks for the input.  I assumed that since I have a cham/ber'd vis, the str saved/50+ life on a ring would be helpful


Yeah but ur AR would be AWFUL. that's downfall, I rather gain AR then gain a lot of life lol.
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Jul 23 2013 06:05pm
Quote (Neko @ Jul 23 2013 08:02pm)
Yeah but ur AR would be AWFUL. that's downfall, I rather gain AR then gain a lot of life lol.


Thanks for the input. I haven't meleed in a few years and I don't really remember too much about what numbers people look to hit or anything so I'm winging it lol.

Now to decide to ber/something else the helm, or leave it cham'd for when I want to use angelics...or just to get a 2nd vis.
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Quote (Motion @ Jul 23 2013 05:05pm)
Thanks for the input. I haven't meleed in a few years and I don't really remember too much about what numbers people look to hit or anything so I'm winging it lol.

Now to decide to ber/something else the helm, or leave it cham'd for when I want to use angelics...or just to get a 2nd vis.


If your going use ber/something else in the helm might as well just stick with fools zerk if your going use gelics/cham'd vis then use edc or just get 2nd vis lol
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Jul 23 2013 06:48pm
Quote (Motion @ Jul 23 2013 07:00pm)
Hey Dark. I'm sure within the 1400 pages of this awesome guide,  a similar question has been answered.

Here is the setup I'm thinking about.
280 edc---40/294 fools zerker (zod) for switch
623 def 2 os eth rep bv visionary (cham/ber)
2403 e upd shaft (zod)
140/40/15 dungo
Perfect E vortex exile
2x nice 100+ ar/20+ str/10+dex/50+ life rings
highlords
213 gores
Gloves: I'm up in the air. Should I stat 40 stats to be able to use rends? should I use dracs? Should I use my 184 def 20 ias 15 str 11 dex cold/light res gloves?


Also, generally how many hard points need to be statted for a zealot?


im a stat whore. I would stat for the rare gloves, and use dracs for tap, with a melee ring or 2 to be able to use rends :)
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