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#13521
Jul 21 2013 11:19am
Quote (donfromtgood @ Jul 21 2013 09:27am)
i used ap to save stats.  if you arent in a high strength pally viso it is def not worth it. 

na i just think its something people can just bitch about when they loose.  melee is always random.  it may have mattered then, back when everyone used dial up, i was 12 then and didnt care much.  but now the only thing that affects melee is internet connection.  whoever has the lowest ping will hit first.


Whoever hits the shift key and faces themselves backwards at the exact correct moment will hit first.
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#13522
Jul 21 2013 02:26pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Jul 21 2013 11:19am)
Whoever hits the shift key and faces themselves backwards at the exact correct moment will hit first.


what if they both do it at the correct moment?

This post was edited by Me0w on Jul 21 2013 02:29pm
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#13523
Jul 21 2013 04:19pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Jul 20 2013 07:13pm)
The person who is better and faster at it.



So, if you're good at the game legitimately you may as well use cheats, too? Makes no sense.



They are somewhat similar. But you can wear Prudence with Stormshield and attain way more defense than alma setups.


The thing is I don't know how far off the defense is compared to eshaft and eth alma. I would guess not too much of a difference. The only reason I prefer eth alma is because of the damage and ar mod. I was thinking with p eth alma you don't need visionary and you can use shako instead. I want to know a 4k life setup for zvz non tap.
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#13524
Jul 21 2013 08:25pm
Quote (Mokuba @ Jul 21 2013 06:19pm)
The thing is I don't know how far off the defense is compared to eshaft and eth alma. I would guess not too much of a difference. The only reason I prefer eth alma is because of the damage and ar mod. I was thinking with p eth alma you don't need visionary and you can use shako instead. I want to know a 4k life setup for zvz non tap.


you dont need eth alma for non tap... i actually hate eth alma for non tap, because you dont need 30k + ar.

pal viso with ss rends and ap prudence i ran 42k defense non tap. with sa you will run around 47k defense.

i used hoz for bo.

i believe hoz to be far superior for non tap...... just get P eth upd.

alma setup should be around 35k defense non tap with less damage.
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#13525
Jul 21 2013 08:28pm
It's easy hitting 4k life with non tap, Just base your stat's around alma or storm shield don't add a lot of strength to your build

this build requires you must have 99 char lol

This post was edited by Neko on Jul 21 2013 08:28pm
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#13526
Jul 21 2013 08:43pm
Here you go Mokuba. I'm obviously not statted for non tap on my zealot but here's a rough idea.



Shako
Shaft
ealma
Edc
Angelics
Verdungos
20 Ias gloves
upd gores

37x 32020s



80/30 pally vis
eprud
cham ss
steelrends
verdungos
edc
angelics
upd gores

37x 32020s

This post was edited by dark-soul on Jul 21 2013 08:54pm
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#13527
Jul 21 2013 09:17pm
Quote (dark-soul @ Jul 22 2013 02:43am)
Here you go Mokuba. I'm obviously not statted for non tap on my zealot but here's a rough idea.

http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff356/laxplr0088/Screenshot008_zps03f116d3.jpg

Shako
Shaft
ealma
Edc
Angelics
Verdungos
20 Ias gloves
upd gores

37x 32020s

http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff356/laxplr0088/Screenshot007_zps02daa32a.jpg

80/30 pally vis
eprud
cham ss
steelrends
verdungos
edc
angelics
upd gores

37x 32020s


res not important?
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#13528
Jul 21 2013 09:44pm
Quote (Screw_Bnet @ Jul 21 2013 10:17pm)
res not important?


Not for gm melee duels since they're all physical dmg based. I would never pub with those setups ofc.
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#13529
Jul 21 2013 09:53pm
Quote (dark-soul @ Jul 22 2013 03:44am)
Not for gm melee duels since they're all physical dmg based. I would never pub with those setups ofc.


ah ok makes sense
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#13530
Jul 21 2013 10:28pm
Quote (Me0w @ Jul 21 2013 04:26pm)
what if they both do it at the correct moment?


Then whoever was slightly faster wins the shift battle.

Quote (Screw_Bnet @ Jul 21 2013 11:17pm)
res not important?


Fire res is because of torch, but most people ignore it anyway.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Jul 21 2013 10:31pm
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