Quote (inkanddagger @ Jun 5 2013 07:20pm)
Lots less damage than c/c. I think shaft with a pally vis is better, but shako/shaft really didn't work any better for me than c/c.
shako shaft is much more consistant than c/c. c/c has shit life, shit defense, and shit ar. the only good thing it has is massive damage, which is extremely inconsistent.
shaft shako is better in almost every way.
but i love c/c, its by far my favorite zeal build. o/c everything has a counter. and pal viso vs c/c is usually a fail.
i found that c/c is > than =pal vis setups due to the low defense of pal visa compared to a defense visa. and i found that shaft shako counters c/c due to the high life.
its kinda like ebotdz high lords valor, and max ba. it hits hard when it hits, but only when it hits