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Jun 5 2013 07:08pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Jun 5 2013 07:20pm)
Lots less damage than c/c. I think shaft with a pally vis is better, but shako/shaft really didn't work any better for me than c/c.


shako shaft is much more consistant than c/c. c/c has shit life, shit defense, and shit ar. the only good thing it has is massive damage, which is extremely inconsistent.

shaft shako is better in almost every way.


but i love c/c, its by far my favorite zeal build. o/c everything has a counter. and pal viso vs c/c is usually a fail.

i found that c/c is > than =pal vis setups due to the low defense of pal visa compared to a defense visa. and i found that shaft shako counters c/c due to the high life.


its kinda like ebotdz high lords valor, and max ba. it hits hard when it hits, but only when it hits
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Jun 13 2013 12:46am
any use for this? non tap mode

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Jun 13 2013 01:02am
Quote (unmensch123 @ Jun 13 2013 02:46am)
any use for this? non tap mode

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/7510/26140458.jpg


Uhm yes... Nice.
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Quote (unmensch123 @ Jun 13 2013 01:46am)
any use for this? non tap mode

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/7510/26140458.jpg


Yeah that's def a nice cruels lol.

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Jun 13 2013 08:22am
Quote (unmensch123 @ Jun 13 2013 02:46am)
any use for this? non tap mode

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/7510/26140458.jpg


as nice of a cruel as it is, ebotdz seems to reign supreme. its a nice old school effect though
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Jun 13 2013 12:13pm
Quote (donfromtgood @ Jun 13 2013 10:22am)
as nice of a cruel as it is, ebotdz seems to reign supreme.  its a nice old school effect though


I don't see why botdz would be better than this really. It has higher avg damage than a botdz.
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Jun 13 2013 05:31pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Jun 13 2013 02:13pm)
I don't see why botdz would be better than this really. It has higher avg damage than a botdz.


you gain min damage, but loose max damage. you gain 20 ds, but loose 30 to all stats. and ebotdz has -td

ebotdz for 75 fg is a much better purchase, and will perform better.


cruels havent been good since rune words, unless you are just dueling randoms in pn/1

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what is the best base weapon for non tap? i mean if u use a fools?

ettin axe?
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Quote (unmensch123 @ Jun 15 2013 03:57pm)
what is the best base weapon for non tap? i mean if u use a fools?

ettin axe?


I prefered zerker as the best base. but if you are going 100% non tap legendary mallet is amazing, but it has a high ias req.
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