Quote (Mokuba @ May 29 2013 04:45pm)

I still prefer 3/20/20's for the best balance for ZvZ. Forget about a lot of 3/20/20's and several 20/36's. I mean its not going to do you any better to increase your ar by a little bit anyways.



I agree 100%.



I would not even think about another weapon over edc for ZvZ. Of course you would strongly disagree with me and dark-soul but its mainly because you like other setups. It just hard to beat edc for a ZvZ no matter what other options you choose.

Quote (dark-soul @ May 30 2013 12:45am)

There are a lot of godly fools out these days that I would use over edc tbh. Well not a lot but there are a few that out perform an edc/angelic setup.

Quote (donfromtgood @ May 30 2013 09:02am)

if the fools isnt super godly edc is > imo

only thing that beats edc consistantly is a fools zerker, or a high min base like a mighty scepter.  it has to be self repair and 280 ed + to be worth it.

basically if you dont have 10k fg- 50kfg just buy a P edc for like 300 fg and be ok

Quote (dark-soul @ May 30 2013 09:08am)

Yeah that's why i said just a few are better. Like brens and a few others.

Quote (Neko @ May 30 2013 04:28pm)

and mine

Quote (Fusa @ May 30 2013 10:48pm)

nn edc > yours

Quote (Mokuba @ Jun 5 2013 01:35pm)

I was just looking at the eshaft setup with shako cham and it seems viable to me since you can hit 4k life and 23k ar at lvl 99. Just think about how sturdy the shako eshaft setup is compared to the cc setup. Do you think its possible for the shako eshaft setup beat the cc setup? I want opinions.

Quote (donfromtgood @ Jun 5 2013 07:06pm)

Shako shaft is better than cc by a lot.  More life, more defense

But cc #1