you will end up with -30 wsm with suwayaah + feral
wsm bug =average-faster instead of just average
-10(average)-20(faster)=-30

so it's as fast as 2x gt/rt
with suwayaah runic, average=-15, faster=-30=-45

btw,

This post was edited by tudey on Sep 12 2009 04:31am

So if suwayaah + feral is the same as 2xgt/rt (-30) after wsm bugging, wouldnt you still need 45 ias to reach max trap speed? (20-40 ias on main claw, rest of gear)

I mean i would need bb or a ias jewel in helm to reach max ias, even with 40ias feral fools right? or am i missing something. I probably am.

Oh and btw, HEY TUDEY!!!

This post was edited by Sapientos on Sep 12 2009 05:21am

yes same wsm=same breakpoints

so yes, you need bb or ias jewel
or you could just use highlord, you gain pretty much extra damage and you get more ias than from bb (vs example slow from arach)

yeye, mr. Knowitall :>:>

Thanks mate.

I have heard that it is best to use Suwayyah And Rt/Freal as claws !
But I just found really good GT Fools
Is it possible to get a good claw setup with a GT claw in it ??
Or is Suwayyah and RT/Feral the BEST !

your physical damage will suffer a bit but if the claws have amazing mods you can use them until you find better runics/suwayyah (if possible)

you wont be as good as someone who found "godly" suwayyah + RT/Feral claws but GTs (if the mods are really good) are still ok.... i guess

It should also be said that you can up ur rares. It amazes me how many times i see a non upped fools on a sin. especially gt's which is why I keep all the fools in my shop at elite lvls you cant trust that people know whats up.

i have a question about your sin guide
im really nooby, and im on west ladder, so what changes should i make for the gear for the 102% fcr setup
and im also kinda poor and this gear seems kinda expensive
id appreciate it alot if you could help me out =/
thanks!

this is an expensive build so if ur poor not recomended but for 102 fcr on ladder u need a griff but most agree this griff 102 bp isnt a great setup on a hybrid. ur better off sticking to the 65 fcr if ur on ladder or making a cc trapper

which ones better? 65 fcr or cc trapper? and will i still b good?? o.o