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Mar 28 2022 10:50pm
Quote (KimSulki84 @ Mar 28 2022 10:43pm)
I got both tiaras and did the comparison and 1515 was higher average dmg with enigma and mat faith for some reason. haha

Here's the comparison of using 3 15IAS/15Max Damage Jewels and 3 15IAS/40ED Jewels.

Equipped bow : Mat Faith 15/2/3 15ed

Multishot Numbers:
tel:1245-47441245-4744[/URL] with 45IAS/45Max Damage (2994 average dmg)
tel:1338-45871338-4587[/URL] with 45IAS/120Enhanced Damage (2962 average dmg)



Very interesting! This could really add value to 15/15max jewels, and ultimately bring more options to the market for tele zons at the least! Can you do test with regular zon build using fort/gmb? I imagine the 15/15 maybe did so well in this case due to the lack of other enhanced damage?
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Quote (ceejay3 @ Mar 27 2022 11:49pm)
Try to get in that 120-150 range. An easy way to do this, is get a bunch of 3/5 all res scs. You’ll need the resist anyways. I feel like 120+frw java side, 32fhr is good enough to save you in most situations. For gloves you can get some java ias knockback for much cheaper than passive. Amulet go for 2/18+ fcr ofc. All in all, it’s a relatively cheap build but can be really pricey if you go for the super gg’s haha.

Like I got my hands on a 2 zon 20fcr 20 frw 48 life 26 cr 2os helm with matching 15/40’s. Really hard to come by atm



Do you mean 90+ bow side is enough with 120 from titans?

This post was edited by NateFizzle on Mar 29 2022 01:02am
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Quote (NateFizzle @ Mar 29 2022 02:57am)
Do you mean 90+ bow side is enough with 120 from titans?



Yeah but if you’re able to get 120 bow side and 150 java side that’s better ofc
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Quote (ceejay3 @ Mar 29 2022 12:09am)
Yeah but if you’re able to get 120 bow side and 150 java side that’s better ofc



Hmm yeah without cats eye or frw on helm I’d need to add another 4 frw gcs or 10 scs so if my current 96/126 is enough then I’ll take it. I’m hoping frw will be a bit less crucial in 2.4
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Quote (NateFizzle @ Mar 29 2022 03:20am)
Hmm yeah without cats eye or frw on helm I’d need to add another 4 frw gcs or 10 scs so if my current 96/126 is enough then I’ll take it. I’m hoping frw will be a bit less crucial in 2.4



It’s mostly needed vs smiters and trap sins. Otherwise you’re fine
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Quote (ceejay3 @ Mar 29 2022 04:59am)
It’s mostly needed vs smiters and trap sins. Otherwise you’re fine



How do you feel about being slowed with the 45ias mat bow build? I’m assuming getting hit by someone wearing arach will bump you from 7 to 8fpa.

This would be the same issue using the 65ias shadow build, but I’m wondering if it’s ever worth it to go 65ias with mat bow to counter slow.

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Quote (NateFizzle @ Mar 29 2022 03:49pm)
How do you feel about being slowed with the 45ias mat bow build? I’m assuming getting hit by someone wearing arach will bump you from 7 to 8fpa.

This would be the same issue using the 65ias shadow build, but I’m wondering if it’s ever worth it to go 65ias with mat bow to counter slow.



I mean you can, but honestly it hasn’t really been a big deal for me other than golem slow, now that shit sucks haha
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Quote (ceejay3 @ Mar 28 2022 03:34pm)
Well until 2.4, you don’t need the extra pts in multi, but after 2.4, it boosts your guided arrow damage considerably. You can put less into psn javelin and have around 30k plague which is what I’ve been running lately. Here’s a max roll with my actual gear and skill allocation for this setup: https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner-ptr/0o0106v0

As for mana consumption, this is a big problem in the build, hence you want to get mana anywhere you can, such as the fcr ring, or amulet. You can usually get through a duel with your mana belt though ofc. In competitive duels, it’s pretty standard to have a mana pool set up beforehand



Good lord that diadem is filthy…

Looks like you are balls out damage with charms. Do you not worry about resist much on zon or do you just stack charms when needed? My build is basically complete but I’m more split between damage and res to get fire and light maxed.

Also, I see you need titans to use ss. Do you ever die while holding cta and have issues getting your body?
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Quote (NateFizzle @ Mar 29 2022 05:16pm)
Good lord that diadem is filthy…

Looks like you are balls out damage with charms. Do you not worry about resist much on zon or do you just stack charms when needed? My build is basically complete but I’m more split between damage and res to get fire and light maxed.

Also, I see you need titans to use ss. Do you ever die while holding cta and have issues getting your body?


I play mostly private team duels or tournaments so i just swap out charms amulet ring or boots whenever i need to, and usually get bo from my team, otherwise i cube buff bo before the duel :D
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Mar 30 2022 09:39am
Ceejay! I finally started doing some pvp for the first time this week and man this is on another level. Too much fun. I spent like 2 hours in pub duel game last night hahahaha

Based my gears using your guide. I don't have much charms yet. just using my pvm maiming charms, balance fine charms and like 10 251/313 psn charms haha I do 68fcr on bowhand and max fcr on switch. I don't have eth titan or stormshield. Will get some of those today.

SO MUCH FUN!

Thank you for this guide. I love it. I'm like a huge pvm telebowa advocate and I think I will be pvp telebowa advocate too!
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