Quote (Marieusz @ Aug 22 2015 03:39am)

No chance, not a full packet casting kolbot hammerdin

Quote (Marieusz @ Aug 22 2015 03:42am)

Exactly

and that means you are using enigma setup? if not they will be on the 2nd seal before you even get to the chaos sanc entrance

Quote (Beste @ 22 Aug 2015 02:12)

i just tested some stuff with editor.

highest raw dmg is indeed grief+forti+pride + selfconv.. ofc u lack teleport and compared to death u loose CB an the perma freeze

compared to eni + reapers u loose 645 ./. ~70 str of eni= 575 ed
when repears proc u will deal more dmg than the one above making this setup actually Nr.1.
even while u have to go resis charms. u will be at 7k avg dmg (with dealystrike 71%) before Decrepify so compared to nonDecrepify zeal u deal 14k avg.
when we count that we loose Decrepify cause of dream sometimes i gues it doesnt matter if reapers or pride.
this dmg was with no max dmg charms at all in invent, or any min/max ring.

€
i forgot the +ed cause of eni 2+skills (i guess it desnt really matte ranyway)

Quote (izParagonzi @ 22 Aug 2015 02:18)

Read all 13 pages... wow... :lol:

Based on most of the comments, my post is more directed at LoH vs Draculs and why I personally believe LoH to be greater.

50% Fire Res = 5 inventory slots of 3 maximum dmg vs 11 fire res charms.
... 3 max dmg x 5 = 15 Maximum dmg... this does not seem like much right?
... But then all the Enhanced Damage adders makes it worthwhile + more Life return for LL

350% ED vs Demons
... Chaos Sanctuary and all main bosses are demons, so the return of faster killspeed
... and life return [with LL item(s)] is way more beneficial vs 15 stats and Lifetap.

20% IAS
... This is dependent on various things like weapon type / fana aura and other worn items.
... also helps when killing Baal waves and being decrepyfied or Caster Knights cursing you.

If your arguement is based on Lifetap, you are better off prebuffing yourself and using Lifetap wand on switch.
If your arguement is based on Crushing Blow, remember that the lower life that boss has, the less effective
crushing blow is compared to more raw damage. Raw dmg gives more life return, and in some cases is more
effective.

Other things to take into consideration is when using a Reapers Toll on merc [33% ctc Decrepify] will cancel
out your Lifetap if using Draculs Grasp, thus making it pointless to wear. Any other ctc items that can nullify
lifetap makes it more sense to use LL / LaeK items beneficial in killspeed and survival.





a barb can do chaos faster than any bot or other character build... why bot?

Quote (Beste @ 22 Aug 2015 02:27)

another thing i like of death and the Glacial Spike is that non cold imunes will explode and cant get revived :P

Quote (izParagonzi @ Aug 22 2015 04:18am)

a barb can do chaos faster than any bot or other character build... why bot?

Quote (izParagonzi @ Aug 22 2015 01:18pm)

a barb can do chaos faster than any bot or other character build... why bot?

Quote (Marieusz @ Aug 22 2015 01:33pm)

it can't clear faster at all

if you're refereeing to fast seal clears then that's irrelevant, any class can do that quick, that's why they call it fast chaos.

Quote (izParagonzi @ Aug 22 2015 04:55am)

Did I say "CLEAR" chaos [as in kill everything?] No, I said "DO" [as in seal popping and killing Diablo].

Barb: Same FCR BPs as Sorc, deals 15k+ Magical dmg similar to Hammerdin and uses
Howl skill to increase speed of popping seals and killing seal bosses. No other character
build can do that in a full game.