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Aug 4 2009 12:30pm
Quote (mvm199 @ Tue, 4 Aug 2009, 21:25)
WHAT??!?!?!!? And yes there are other options ..... Astreon, Grief, Black come to mind mostly. My favorite is Astreon Ber'd, I love the sound it makes when it hits. For basic PvM when Im zealing, Grief ftw!!!!

BUT the point is not which is best (that depends mostly on the person's view), the point is its definitely not crap. With Last Wish you can free up Guillaumes or even Gores!!!! 100 CB is always nice, but seriously 60 to 70CB is more than enough.


You get better setup overall with grief or asterons

Sure lw is not crap, this topic is heavily exaggerated, however it is not the best in terms of cost-effectivity nor overall effectivity, so there really is no reason to use it outside saving space
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Aug 4 2009 12:31pm
It was time that LW was proofen as bullshit "officially".
People claiming something different are just retards :P
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Quote (Mors_Agni @ Tue, Aug 4 2009, 06:31pm)
It was time that LW was proofen as bullshit "officially".
People claiming something different are just retards :P


Proofen? Do you mean Ibuprofen? Speaking of which Isnt it time you took your meds kiddo and leave the discussion up to the big guys?

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Quote (tudey @ Tue, Aug 4 2009, 01:30pm)
You get better setup overall with grief or asterons
Sure lw is not crap, this topic is heavily exaggerated, however it is not the best in terms of cost-effectivity nor overall effectivity, so there really is no reason to use it outside saving space


which is a damn good reason
why make a dedicated uber character when you could make a regular one, who can pvp, pvm, etc, and still do ubers in just an extra 20 seconds?
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Quote (mvm199 @ Tue, Aug 4 2009, 01:22pm)
Super noobs, seriously. What gets me is their arrogance mostly. Last Wish is rubbish, Pride is rubbish, EBOTD is rubbish, Enigma is rubbish .... LOL then why are they all mass duped and sought after?

If theyre not useful for you, fine. Gear is useful depending on the class, not just its innate stats. But never call something crap. I have found use for a majority of items in the game, depending on build and situation. Conservative and narrow minded sticking-to-one-set-of-gear will also get you nowhere.


say are you this iraq guy that darkkobra keeps talking aboujt?
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Quote (deathwinger @ Tue, 4 Aug 2009, 21:38)
which is a damn good reason
why make a dedicated uber character when you could make a regular one, who can pvp, pvm, etc, and still do ubers in just an extra 20 seconds?


dunno becouse everyone pvps at ladder :wacko:
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say are you this iraq guy that darkkobra keeps talking aboujt?


ROFL no!!! But I am of Semitic origin, seeing as I'm Maltese :)
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Quote (mvm199 @ Tue, Aug 4 2009, 01:41pm)
ROFL no!!! But I am of Semitic origin, seeing as I'm Maltese :)


o ok. i dont do much falconing but i guess u guys are better at it, i just train horses
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Quote (deathwinger @ Tue, Aug 4 2009, 06:38pm)
which is a damn good reason
why make a dedicated uber character when you could make a regular one, who can pvp, pvm, etc, and still do ubers in just an extra 20 seconds?


No way LW will take an extra 20 seconds over Grief .... 5 seconds at best. Grief = high damage no CB, LW = high CB low dmg. Both average out, LW brings them down fast and suffers at the end while Grief shines through only at the end.


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o ok. i dont do much falconing but i guess u guys are better at it, i just train horses 


Indeed, here in Malta everyone is crazy for all kinds of bird-related sports. My dad is once of them haha

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im sayin like 20 seconds over a dedicated uberer
like if u just slap last wish on a smiter and call it a day, on normal pvp gear. or on a bvc, instead of grief and use frenzy, etc
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