I think you can always make so 125% fcr summoner will hold hardcore
Just put resistance charms instead of skillers so get max resists.

you use magefist because CE is a fire skill and you get +1 from mages
you DONT max CE because in more than 4 player game it doesnt kill anything
you dont use any other curses than amplify damage because its a waste and decrepify just slows the boss BUT WHO CARES he dies fast enough anyway with amplify dmg

why u need so much fcr???? for fast tele?????? u dont need max fcr!!!!!

and if you dont want ur golem to die u max golem mastery
if you play HC you max synergies of bone armor
if you play SC you dont care about bone armor because even if you die its not that much of a deal
so you can max blood golem (life synergy to iron golem)

CE adds range that is why i max it..
yes i personally don't use any curses except amp but guide says where can you use other curses and it's up to you use it or no..

more fcr = faster tele, faster CE, faster summoning, faster cursing.

my golem never died except in chaos cause of IM..
if you want ok
yeah
nn blood golem cause IG does not die!!

and thx 4 your opinion.

This post was edited by Sladeinflame7 on Feb 2 2010 02:59pm

do you really want that more of a range ???

i mean i have only 1 in CE and i have a good range already i kill nihla in 2 CE max 3

so my range is enough

i play hardcore so survival is more important for me so i didnt max CE so i can put in bone wall for more dmg absorbtion
my golem died 3 times everytime it was at uber andariel (lilith) he damage is just crazy

he never died from iron maiden coz i made pride which doesnt add dmg and with his 3k life and +3k life from bo it makes already 6k
since he has no dmg coz pride in a cracked voulge so he does like 40-50 dmg with all the auras so he really needs to have the curse for like 30seconds to die so i didnt max blood golem as well
but 125fcr is just a waste
i prefer homu because it has a nice block and with 2x 20dex raven i didnt need that much to max my block

max block is important in HC

but urs is really good too but i presume u play sc

we have different rules in hc (many tppkers )

so i use COA ber ber and homu or COA 20/15 life/res with storm is a good alternative too

so you reach the 50dr bp

but its up to you

if you come in HC you should use my advice but if you play SC

then urs does the job as well

actually there are no good skills where to put them, so CE is the best for pvm. Yeah ofc if you like recasting bone armor then you can max it's synergies, but i prefer more offensive strategy..

ofc when you play hc you will adapt your summoner to hc and make it more defensive.. and 125% is not a waste but ofc if you prefer MB + max DR then 125% is like impossible^^

yeah i play sc and don't really care about dying, but i am not dying a lot either

yeah i think its the main difference when i used to play SC i had 125fcr too coz i always make a summoner in every ladder (mainly for ubers)

but like that with my 40fcr (arach + mages) i have enough and i summon quite fast anyway and tele speed is not that important for me coz even if i tele in the middle of monsters i dont get hit because of all the summons

and mages are better you can up em twice and get a nice def + u get some nice mana regeneration and +1 to CE (ce = fireskill)

but both chars are really playable and really nice

the little difference is the range of CE which is already ok and usually monsters stay in groups so low CE is ok

and i recommand if you are quite rich to buy 45lifers skillers because puttin stats into vita doesnt give much life anyway

and having like 6x 45 life skillers adds a nice life boost which after bo goes like crazy

dunno mage = trangs imo, cause yeah mages adds 1 to ce and fire mages i guess, more mana, but trangs adds 2 to curses and 30 cold res, so both are good ofc..

what about fcr it all depends on playstyle - people are going through the game w/o gear with summoner and say it is very nice so..^^

skills for bone armor or golem mastery seems wasted for me so CE is the best way here - even if it does not add THAT much, it still best skill to max last imo

i think we will both agree that:

SC -> you max CE
HC -> you max survival :D^^ hence bone armor synergy

Bone armor synergies are wasted skillpoints. I'd max ce for a sc and a hc summoner. Just stay behind your skeletons. You shouldn't get hit anyway with dim vision, terror and 10+ meatshields.