GG Guide!

Nice guide - I am just finishing my version.

Questions:

1. Why not use a -15req/15@ jwl in coa + 15ias/40 ed giving you an extra 78 life before bo, at a minor reduction in total damage. But helps you stack res.
Faith IAS BP is 46% for 8 frames - so cats, gloves & one 15ias jwl deliver more than needed.

Your comment on vita over damage 40%ed loss = 28 to max damage - 50% dr most players use = 14 damage per hit lost V's 126 life with average bo.

My build uses bb, stormtracks + rather nice 20ias kb 13 str 12 dex gloves, so the end goal is pre-cast bo with x2 soj, maras to get lvl 14 bo then use titans/storm on switch for de-synch.
As I only need cats,bb and cats to get 8fps this leaves me the option to use x2 -15/15@ jwls adding 250+ life with very nice res.
I should get nicer stacked resists & be able to 'tank' with titans/storm when all else fails!

Aiming for approx 3.8k life on my bowie - and comparing it to my pure dex build using same gear except coa swaps to 120/45/30frw but this only has 1200 life with bo, the one hit wonder etc.
I do struggle to keep the glass canon alive - mainly due to my lack of skills in duelling! So I hope this one will give me more time to make a few mistakes

I guess later today I will find out if this is a hit or a miss!

well i have considered your recommendation of using 20ias gloves with stats. This option as you said allows you to remove a 40ed/15ias jewel from the helm and provides a great bonus from stats which allows more points for life. It also provides lots of options including but not limited to a negative req jewel, ber rune, jah, life/res jewel. etc

The disadvantage to this is that it requires your gloves to be fixed at all times. I like not having to rely on the gloves because it allows me to use kb gloves with passive skiils, switch to cleglaws for bm slow attack, draculs or use ik gloves to to give me stat points and take off the stat ring or raven frost and use a whisper/dwarf etc.

But yes your idea is good and is an option for those who want to make their your gloves permanent.

This post was edited by Spartikis on Mar 8 2008 03:00pm

coa vs 3/30:

im making the bowa but dont find the use of coa.

coa is 15dr 30@ 30fhr ans 2 socs

30@ 30fhr is 6x 5@ 5fhr scs (12 mods spaces like 120life and 18max dmg)
and 15dr is like 500 life against fisical only


3/30

30 frw is 10 mods spaces like 200 life
0 str req 198 life


total if you use coa instead of 3/30
--------------------------------------------
+18 max dmg
+500 life against fisical
-450 life and after bo
- 1 soc
+300 def

dunno but prefer 450life against all than 500 against fisical
and in 1 soc i can get more than 18 max dmg and i can do with 7 frames atacks
is importand that 300def extra in my new bowa?

please help about that, need input data

but atm 3/30 > coa

very creative and i think i see where you are going with it. On ladder this would be a possible approach. The following are a list of things i would keep in mind before doing this.

1) you can get 5% frw scs on nl, this means you are saving 6x charms and not 10x, meaning only 120 life not 200. So you would loose 30% fhr and 30 res fromt he helm but then gain 30 fhr and 30 res. Not much of a trade off, plus you loose a skill and 15% dr but gain one socket and 30% frw.
2) you say it needs to additional str. And you are saying that because of this you gain 66 stat points which can be used in vita and be 198 life. This is only true if you choose to not to use a spirit monarch or ss and go with lidless meaning you highest str item is faith gm bow at 108. If so you loose additional dr from the ss and +1 skill to bo which means you loose 60+ life there.
3)You want to get down to 7 frames. Well that means you need nos coil and have to give up the dungos, thats 40 less vita (120 life, does not receive bonus from bo) and you loose your only other form of DR doing this.

Keep in mind that every 15% dr with 3800 life means you are taking 570 more dmg

Conditions if you are on nl and have 5% frw sc available:
-2 skill (120 less life)
-120 life from dungos
120 more life from charms (200 with bo)
0% dr (1200 less physical dmg you can take)
same res as before
same fhr as before
same frw as before
-300 defense (nice to have when chilling armor kicks in but not life or death)
1 frame faster
100ish more to max dmg

Might be a more effective method on ladder using a low str build. Not sure if its worth giving up all of your dr tho :-/

Lmk how it works out if you do try it though or if i missed something obvious when going over this.

This post was edited by Spartikis on Mar 9 2008 06:27pm

i have read that 5 frw sc that only a grafical bug, in reality are 3 frw

and as 2on shield i use sigon that give +1 to bo and nice block.

nah 3% frw scs give 3% and the 5% give 5%, ive tested this before several times.
Its real easy, just get a character and put like 10x of the 3%s and then 10x of the 5% on a diff character and go to act 2 town and run the length of the town. There is a big difference. Ive also compared them to characters wearing frw items as well.

Its just a myth some corrupt sellers made up to convince people who were looking to buy 3% frw to buy their 5% frw sc. They are real charms and were the normal amount in patches 1.07 to 1.09 and was changed in 1.10.

This post was edited by Spartikis on Mar 9 2008 06:33pm

Damage reduced is not dependant on your total life, it depends on the damage you receive. If you get hit by a 1k ww hit (after pvp penalty) then you take 150 less damage.

no duh! but if you have 3800 life you could receive 3800 dmg. i know this and so does everyone else so why did you bother posting?

btw, its spelled dependent not dependant...I felt like that was rather important information to point out.

This post was edited by Spartikis on Mar 10 2008 06:43am

Using Treachery to Prebuff strengthens you a bit more!