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Feb 18 2008 04:10am
Quote (mephistophilis @ Thu, Dec 20 2007, 03:33am)
When you step away, don't go too far. Just a couple of feet. You will take some hits in this process and it is not completely risk free. as I said, you can only teleport right onto the Wave with the Soul Boss. Lord De Seis and the Pitlord boss you will have to approach with caution. You could try summoning more monsters if that helps you out too. Bascially this just takes time to finesse. Try for a bit longer then pm me. If you still need direction we will get you into an east game and Ill show you in person.


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Feb 18 2008 06:34pm
I really love this build, since i read your build i dropped my beast ba and picked up my hoto from the dust. Together with a spirit & a faith on the merc i finally felt why you like this build so much.
Think that people like the act 2 merc cause they can have more aura's, that maybe why they think it's so much better. Maybe it's better @ dmg but with a beast ba you lose a lot of FCR & Res (what i think is more important then a bit more dmg) + a dieing act 2 merc all the time in CS prevent me from returning there for a while.
Unlike you i'm just running the default gear parts instead of the stylish stuff what indeed looks good (bloodfist & darkforce) Not to mention those 2 sexy amu & helmet your having. kinda jealous of that i must say.. biggrin.gif
My build is some different then yours since i didn't +++ my golems & only putted one point in it. It's also not something i would put point in unless i was playing ladder, cause it's really going to cost me BIGTIME if i would die smile.gif, Anyways if i would have the money i would certainly go a simalar direction.

conclusion:

With your build you show that you're experienced with necromancers, or atleast with summonmancers.
Giving a act 1 merc a faith is not what most other people would do cause they would choose for a act 2 merc & a beast ba in there hands wink.gif
I'm not saying that it's bad but knowing i have enough damage output i would rather go for a bit more speed, mobility and a merc i can actually do CS with smile.gif

Saying this i give your guide a 10/10
Looking forward to your next guide. cheers!

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Feb 18 2008 06:38pm
Quote (Shinobi-tlo @ Mon, Feb 18 2008, 07:34pm)
I really love this build, since i read your build i dropped my beast ba and picked up my hoto from the dust. Together with a spirit & a faith on the merc i finally felt why you like this build so much.
Think that people like the act 2 merc cause they can have more aura's, that maybe why they think it's so much better. Maybe it's better @ dmg but with a beast ba you lose a lot of FCR & Res (what i think is more important then a bit more dmg) + a dieing act 2 merc all the time in CS prevent me from returning there for a while.
Unlike you i'm just running the default gear parts instead of the stylish stuff what indeed looks good (bloodfist & darkforce) Not to mention those 2 sexy amu & helmet your having. kinda jealous of that i must say.. biggrin.gif
My build is some different then yours since i didn't +++ my golems & only putted one point in it. It's also not something i would put point in unless i was playing ladder, cause it's really going to cost me BIGTIME if i would die smile.gif, Anyways if i would have the money i would certainly go a simalar direction.

conclusion:

With your build you show that you're experienced with necromancers, or atleast with summonmancers.
Giving a act 1 merc a faith is not what most other people would do cause they would choose for a act 2 merc & a beast ba in there hands wink.gif
I'm not saying that it's bad but knowing i have enough damage output i would rather go for a bit more speed, mobility and a merc i can actually do CS with smile.gif

Saying this i give your guide a 10/10
Looking forward to your next guide. cheers!



This is a fantastic comment. Thank you

Not only did you rate the guide, you pointed things out so it wasnt a spam 10/10.

Thanks for readin it over.

I have actually changed to spirit for the time being until I can find the exact circlet and jewels I am looking for. then I will be back to darkforce. Spirit is better though.

Thanks for the comments and I am glad you enjoyed the guide.
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Feb 18 2008 07:50pm
Nice Guide Man
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Feb 19 2008 08:11am
I want to do nec with ur build but change a few things:
rings fcr + soj
Head Shako
amu Mara
Shield Spirit
gloves Trang's

I change it because do not have circ amu etc like u
think urs ideas r Gr8 tho

How would my changes affect the build ?

Merc and rest
it would have 125fcr but i have a problem , would 125 fcr brake the point ?

btw. Gozu Build

This post was edited by garet87 on Feb 19 2008 08:14am
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Feb 19 2008 09:07am
Quote (garet87 @ Tue, Feb 19 2008, 04:11pm)
I want to do nec with ur build but change a few things:
rings fcr + soj
Head Shako
amu Mara
Shield Spirit
gloves Trang's

I change it because do not have circ amu etc like u
think urs ideas r Gr8 tho

How would my changes affect the build ?

Merc and rest
it would have 125fcr  but i have a problem , would 125 fcr brake the point  ?

btw. Gozu Build


Yes it does brake the point

Breakpoints
FCR:
15 - 0%
14 - 9%
13 - 18%
12 - 30%
11 - 48%
10 - 75%
9 - 125% <<<

I'm currently also hitting 115 fcr. The only options i got open i think are switching the amu or headpiece for (currently shako + mara's)
I'm also trying to figure out how i should change my build since i'm not using a iron golem for the aura, to me thats to expensive. Probably upping the Mages is my guess..
Give some opinions about this please smile.gif

This post was edited by Shinobi-tlo on Feb 19 2008 09:10am
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Feb 19 2008 12:50pm
Quote (garet87 @ Tue, Feb 19 2008, 09:11am)
I want to do nec with ur build but change a few things:
rings fcr + soj
Head Shako
amu Mara
Shield Spirit
gloves Trang's

I change it because do not have circ amu etc like u
think urs ideas r Gr8 tho

How would my changes affect the build ?

Merc and rest
it would have 125fcr  but i have a problem , would 125 fcr brake the point  ?

btw. Gozu Build


Use Magefist gloves (the +1 to fire skills adds 1 to corpse explosion since it is half fire damage half physical)

If I were you I would find a ammulet with some fcr. get one thats +2 summoning skills. they usually pretty cheap if you get like a +3 summons/10 fcr ammy.

IF you are on non-ladder insight gets expensive. i realize that. in that case you want to use mana potions. Insight is a luxury for ladder and for people who have stock piled them for then the ladder turns (ie me)

If you wanted to, you could make your golem out of beast axe and give ur might merc an insight. but it all depends. You can play around with this build quite a bit and make it work for you still.
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Feb 21 2008 06:38am
Lets keep it goin guys.

You can now vote on my guide....

click the link next to Rate St-Lucifer in my sig. it will take you to the polls!

This post was edited by mephistophilis on Feb 21 2008 06:39am
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8/10 on guide
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Feb 23 2008 06:50am
this summon rox for me smile.gif gr8 indea with faith merc i use faith + bramble + Dream cause had 1 and works fine even tho merc has no ll
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