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Nov 2 2012 09:32pm
Quote (dark-soul @ Nov 2 2012 08:29pm)
Dodge.


It's just 40ias/299 ed e rep scepter. :lol:
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Quote (Mokuba @ 3 Nov 2012 00:38)
Nothing to update about this guide since it tells everything that every melee zealer uses now.


you are a very negative person aren't you? :/
you are talking really bad things about great guides like this one, or DHA's bvc guide which is best bvc guide ever on jsp.
and you are supporting some random's dudu guide and such stuff :/

also you talk way too much for some1 who is doing key runs in 12 y/o game to satisfy himself.

you seem a bit clueless yet a big mouth....just my opinion, no flame or anything :)

This post was edited by Alone on Nov 3 2012 02:58am
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Brad, can you write a detailed guide on fools build? Like what to socket the hat especially since using ravens frees up a socket for jewels.
Also, can you comment on rare/crafted rings for fools build? How are max/min damage rings compared to a second raven, bk, or stat ring?

P.S. push the guy who is donating you gear for zealot so you can verify theories and get a feel of how melee has improved/degraded since godly gear became easier to obtain.
Just like societies now trying to narrow the rich/poor gap to make an even playing field, does making melee more accessible to the masses increase the depth of builds and tactics?
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Quote (hengster @ Nov 3 2012 03:51am)
Brad, can you write a detailed guide on fools build? Like what to socket the hat especially since using ravens frees up a socket for jewels.
Also, can you comment on rare/crafted rings for fools build? How are max/min damage rings compared to a second raven, bk, or stat ring?

P.S. push the guy who is donating you gear for zealot so you can verify theories and get a feel of how melee has improved/degraded since godly gear became easier to obtain.
Just like societies now trying to narrow the rich/poor gap to make an even playing field, does making melee more accessible to the masses increase the depth of builds and tactics?


with a 2os rep zerk, get a high stat pally vis cham/ber, angelics, 20ias/high def (190+)/15str/15dex rare gloves, shaft, pcombats
this build worked for me vs almost everything in zvz, if you need to change gear have a high def visionary to swap, don't really need to use anything else

slap on melee ring, highlord, raven, and shako if you're doing nontap, zvd, zvb
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Nov 3 2012 09:18am
Eth Templars Might?

This setup dont?



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Quote (Alone @ Nov 3 2012 03:57am)
you are a very negative person aren't you? :/
you are talking really bad things about great guides like this one, or DHA's bvc guide which is best bvc guide ever on jsp.
and you are supporting some random's dudu guide and such stuff :/

also you talk way too much for some1 who is doing key runs in 12 y/o game to satisfy himself.

you seem a bit clueless yet a big mouth....just my opinion, no flame or anything :)


No I support this guide.
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Nov 3 2012 07:12pm
Quote (Hammerdin_Aries @ Nov 3 2012 08:18am)
Eth Templars Might?

This setup dont?

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8297/templarsmight.jpg


works good :)
Quote (SX-XiP @ Nov 3 2012 06:07am)
with a 2os rep zerk, get a high stat pally vis cham/ber, angelics, 20ias/high def (190+)/15str/15dex rare gloves, shaft, pcombats
this build worked for me vs almost everything in zvz, if you need to change gear have a high def visionary to swap, don't really need to use anything else

slap on melee ring, highlord, raven, and shako if you're doing nontap, zvd, zvb


i'll try this with my scepter. :) ill let you know how do i do :)
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Nov 3 2012 11:42pm
Quote (hengster @ Nov 3 2012 04:51am)
Brad, can you write a detailed guide on fools build? Like what to socket the hat especially since using ravens frees up a socket for jewels.
Also, can you comment on rare/crafted rings for fools build? How are max/min damage rings compared to a second raven, bk, or stat ring?

P.S. push the guy who is donating you gear for zealot so you can verify theories and get a feel of how melee has improved/degraded since godly gear became easier to obtain.
Just like societies now trying to narrow the rich/poor gap to make an even playing field, does making melee more accessible to the masses increase the depth of builds and tactics?


Tbh I don't have that much experience with fools setups. I couldn't find one that could outperform an edc setup so I didn't bother very often. There just weren't any 2 soc erep fools out there for me to play around with. So my suggestions would just be theorycrafting. :( . A gg Rare ring would be superior to a raven when available though. I always tried to use mine when I had the chance.

I think it would be interesting to see the state that melee is in these days. When I was in it most people still used various setups with few using shaft. It seemed that I was one of the first to make shaft my main setup with primarily using a shako or my high def visionary. At least that's what I gathered from my duels in pn and different tournies.

Quote (Hammerdin_Aries @ Nov 3 2012 10:18am)
Eth Templars Might?

This setup dont?

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8297/templarsmight.jpg


I added that setup real quickly on page 5 or so since it was requested.

This post was edited by dark-soul on Nov 3 2012 11:49pm
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Nov 5 2012 02:38am
So I went fools/gelics

36k ar
3.8 life..
7k dmg :lol:

i hope this works....
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What's your ds?
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