Well, old c/c build does decent vs shaft/shako but "hulk build" or shako/levi build does better then shako/shaft though, i know that for a fact.

Lol I see. I always beat that build too though. Not with shako though I had to go high def vis vs it. Not many used it back then though so I dunno. Its also the ugliest build you could use imo so I never messed with it lol.

The ugliest builds i see with viso/levi or shako/levi but seems like it does way better vs shako/shaft and vis/shaft which kind of wierd i dont know what they add inside socks though

I thought most people use vis/shaft setup for ZvZ.

I personally don't use shaft/vis unless i'm in trouble in my sets like if im loosing 3-0 or in a close set lol.

I was same.

oh like i do levi/ p vis is a hard hittin setup imo... and i just love it, was down 5-0 then i slapped the setup on and 7-5 me vs bren massive 7 straight wins for me

call it hulk setup.

I havent done any zeal duels since 1.09 could you guys give me a rundown of the best/most popular setups? What setup counters what?
Im thinking about converting two old paladins to zealots with different setups. Both will use 37* sc's. Either 36/20's or 3/20/20's or a mix.

Like i said, i havent done zeal vs zeal since 1.09 so i have no clue what actually works... I was planing/hoping to use a perfect eth Gladiators build and a perfect eth zodded upgraded Shaft build.
Should i change those? any pointers are welcome

Wow the c/c setup is very nice but would 15/15/20/20 blood gloves and 141 shako 40/15 work well with that setup too?