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Sep 10 2009 08:38am
Quote (Sebounet @ Thu, Sep 10 2009, 10:35am)
Could you give us the right / ideal value of AR for pv@ll ?
Visio + Fools = I got about 12k AR (without enchant) and vs some chars like pala, its seems not enought...
so I thougt replace some 20/5 sc's with 20/36 ...


res is important....you CAN have an extra swap for when you need res and when you dont but you are going to have to find out how to clear space in the stash for that.

imo 12k ar is fine. remember you have cloak of shadows and light traps are well to force your opponent to play offensive vs you and all you have to do is ww away as 5 traps hit them.

sooner or later they are bound to get hit by ww (if you know how to zig zag away) and they wont be able to hit you.
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Sep 10 2009 08:41am
i must be the only one who hates Bear mod vs non paladins o_O
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Sep 10 2009 08:49am
Quote (Tails chao @ Thu, Sep 10 2009, 10:41am)
i must be the only one who hates Bear mod vs non paladins o_O


i hate it too vs non pallies, but i'd rather just stick with it and find it all in 1 rather than trying to find 2 "godly" fools thats meets my expectations
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Sep 10 2009 09:02am
Quote (Azn Masta @ Thu, Sep 10 2009, 02:38pm)
res is important....you CAN have an extra swap for when you need res and when you dont but you are going to have to find out how to clear space in the stash for that.

imo 12k ar is fine. remember you have cloak of shadows and light traps are well to force your opponent to play offensive vs you and all you have to do is ww away as 5 traps hit them.

sooner or later they are bound to get hit by ww (if you know how to zig zag away) and they wont be able to hit you.


OK ty for quick answer.
Something else...do you think using just 1 sc with some fire damage is usefull or not ?
Some pple think that fire help for stun (ww)
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Sep 10 2009 09:10am
Quote (Sebounet @ Thu, Sep 10 2009, 11:02am)
OK ty for quick answer.
Something else...do you think using just 1 sc with some fire damage is usefull or not ?
Some pple think that fire help for stun (ww)


um no....
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Sep 10 2009 09:23am
Quote (Azn Masta @ Thu, 10 Sep 2009, 15:49)
i hate it too vs non pallies, but i'd rather just stick with it and find it all in 1 rather than trying to find 2 "godly" fools thats meets my expectations


personally i'd just stay without on a hyb, on a ghost its maybe a diff story because ghost vs smite is pretty dumb without kb. i just hate my dclaws kb'ing :/
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Sep 10 2009 09:42am
Quote (Sebounet @ Thu, Sep 10 2009, 08:02am)
OK ty for quick answer.
Something else...do you think using just 1 sc with some fire damage is usefull or not ?
Some pple think that fire help for stun (ww)


Sins don't need such silly things. MB = your stun. Works a lot better than a fire damage SC!

Quote (Azn Masta @ Thu, Sep 10 2009, 07:38am)
res is important....you CAN have an extra swap for when you need res and when you dont but you are going to have to find out how to clear space in the stash for that.

imo 12k ar is fine. remember you have cloak of shadows and light traps are well to force your opponent to play offensive vs you and all you have to do is ww away as 5 traps hit them.

sooner or later they are bound to get hit by ww (if you know how to zig zag away) and they wont be able to hit you.


SPIDAAAAAAAAR.
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Sep 10 2009 09:57am
Quote (Bryant @ Thu, Sep 10 2009, 11:42am)
Sins don't need such silly things. MB = your stun. Works a lot better than a fire damage SC!



SPIDAAAAAAAAR.


you got a better plan? as of now... that plan is fool proof vs pallies...
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Sep 10 2009 10:03am
Quote (Tails chao @ Thu, Sep 10 2009, 02:41pm)
i must be the only one who hates Bear mod vs non paladins o_O


yeah but kb vs other char is useless as you knock them out of range where as vs barbs and palas it usefull especially smiters where u both share same range in most cases..
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Quote (halo273 @ Thu, 10 Sep 2009, 17:03)
yeah but kb vs other char is useless as you knock them out of range where as vs barbs and palas it usefull especially smiters where u both share same range in most cases..


Well.. duh, that's why I said it.
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