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Quote (Neko @ Apr 8 2012 01:52am)
imo gelics arent' that good for non tap but it's good with tap though but it's also good with edc and erazor xD

u dont need fhr charms though since zeal is interupt lol


Yea, pretty much what I think on angelics too I guess.

but on fhr

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=56299306&f=21&p=376303277


Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 14 2011 12:01am)
zeal is not uninteruptible, only the first attack of it is
If you block, get hit by an attack that puts you into FHR, or otherwise get interrupt during a zeal, all attacks after the first will 'whiff' and do nothing. They cannot hit and you can't start another zeal until after they're over.
so the very first hit of zeal is uninterruptible, the next 4 hits are not.


pro zeal vs zealers use a +0 skill setup with 1 point in zeal in order to have 50% of their attacks be uninterruptible and blocklock their opponents who have 20% uninterruptible


inkanddagger, iirc told u guys about this too earlier on ( he did some calculations too, but these were wrong mostly and I corrected them later ).

I dont agree with that 0 skill stuff tho, altho it was discussed a bit here if anyone is interested:

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=52700546&f=87

This post was edited by Jeebus666 on Apr 7 2012 06:59pm
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Quote (Jeebus666 @ Apr 7 2012 05:56pm)
Yea, pretty much what I think on angelics too I guess.

but on fhr

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=56299306&f=21&p=376303277




inkanddagger, iirc told u guys about this too earlier on ( he did some calculations too, but these were wrong mostly and I corrected them later ).

I dont agree with that 0 skill stuff tho, altho it was discussed a bit here if anyone is interested:

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=52700546&f=87


meh fhr isn't needed for zeal/conc, i tried it before..lol it is needed for overall dueling though. only melee char that needed fhr is druid and prolly jabazon but..i haven't did any tests with that char about fhr. ~_~
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Apr 7 2012 07:10pm
Quote (Neko @ Apr 8 2012 02:05am)
meh fhr isn't needed for zeal/conc, i tried it before..lol it is needed for overall dueling though. only melee char that needed fhr is druid and prolly jabazon but..i haven't did any tests with that char about fhr. ~_~


Dunno, if it is needed or not tbh, but I dont think fhr is completely useless.

And why jabazon, fhr doesnt affect dodges
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Apr 7 2012 07:12pm
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Apr 7 2012 06:10pm)
Dunno, if it is needed or not tbh, but I dont think fhr is completely useless.

And why jabazon, fhr doesnt affect dodges


i keep getting fhr locked with jabazon soo annoying lol
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Quote (Neko @ Apr 8 2012 02:12am)
i keep getting fhr locked with jabazon soo annoying lol


Are u sure your being fhr locked, or isn't it just dodge lock instead?

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Apr 7 2012 07:20pm
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Apr 7 2012 06:17pm)
Are u sure your being fhr locked, or isn't it just dodge lock instead?


i'm 100% sure its fhr locked if was dodge lock, i could see that lol.
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Apr 7 2012 08:51pm
Quote (zerohour408 @ Apr 7 2012 05:56pm)
Regarding that. Should I use Fort SA or Prudence SA.

I will lose these stats:

Damage: 2077-8637
AR: 30755
Def: 34548
Life: 3782

and w/ Prudence

Damage: 1650-6850
AR: same
Def: 50,500
Life: around the same, less fhr charms


Lose the fhr charms they're wasting space. I like eprud more myself but both are good options.

This post was edited by dark-soul on Apr 7 2012 08:55pm
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Apr 7 2012 08:57pm
Quote (Neko @ Apr 7 2012 06:20pm)
i'm 100% sure its fhr locked if was dodge lock, i could see that lol.


Quote (dark-soul @ Apr 7 2012 07:51pm)
Lose the fhr charms they're wasting space. Rest looks good.

Dark-soul are you 100% sure FHR charms won't do jack in Zeal vs Zeal?
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Quote (zerohour408 @ Apr 7 2012 09:57pm)
Dark-soul are you 100% sure FHR charms won't do jack in Zeal vs Zeal?


Yes, fhr isn't needed on a zealot. If you venture into pubs or something you'd need fhr of course but not in gm melee. The top zealot setups don't even have any fhr aside from verdungos.

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