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Mar 28 2022 05:00pm
Quote (ceejay3 @ Mar 28 2022 03:34pm)
Well until 2.4, you don’t need the extra pts in multi, but after 2.4, it boosts your guided arrow damage considerably. You can put less into psn javelin and have around 30k plague which is what I’ve been running lately. Here’s a max roll with my actual gear and skill allocation for this setup: https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner-ptr/0o0106v0

As for mana consumption, this is a big problem in the build, hence you want to get mana anywhere you can, such as the fcr ring, or amulet. You can usually get through a duel with your mana belt though ofc. In competitive duels, it’s pretty standard to have a mana pool set up beforehand



Yeah that synergy damage is juicy for sure. Talk about a trade off :cry:

At 92 I can shave off 12 points from either multi or poison jav to get 68 avoid and 71 crit, so that’s not bad. 8 points in poison jav still gives me 22k plague with no jav gcs.

Are dodge and evade just not very important because melee you should be shielding, and running you worry less about getting hit at all?

Quote (KimSulki84 @ Mar 28 2022 03:36pm)
can't use mana pots during duels? im new, just curious.



You certainly can use mana pots, but 7 frame multi costing 40 mana means you burn over 120 mana per second, which will drain a zon real damn quick.
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Mar 28 2022 05:09pm
Quote (KimSulki84 @ Mar 28 2022 06:36pm)
can't use mana pots during duels? im new, just curious.


look at the last part silly haha, in HLD you can use mana pots, but Nate wants to use this zon for pubs and in pubs theres usually not mana pools, so i was sayin he should be good with 1 belt full per duel :D
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Mar 28 2022 05:11pm
Quote (NateFizzle @ Mar 28 2022 07:00pm)
Yeah that synergy damage is juicy for sure. Talk about a trade off :cry:

At 92 I can shave off 12 points from either multi or poison jav to get 68 avoid and 71 crit, so that’s not bad. 8 points in poison jav still gives me 22k plague with no jav gcs.

Are dodge and evade just not very important because melee you should be shielding, and running you worry less about getting hit at all?




correct, while it would be ideal to have higher level Evade, its certainly a place where you can sacrifice some points.
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Mar 28 2022 05:15pm
What's your tweak on this if there's like no rules? Max strafe? Why is strafe not allowed over 1 pt??
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Mar 28 2022 05:24pm
Quote (ceejay3 @ Mar 28 2022 04:09pm)
look at the last part silly haha, in HLD you can use mana pots, but Nate wants to use this zon for pubs and in pubs theres usually not mana pools, so i was sayin he should be good with 1 belt full per duel :D



Someday soonish I’d like to get into actual legit gm dueling. I need to buckle down and focus on one or two characters rather than building and playing everything. Maybe this zon will spark a love that I haven’t felt since 1.09 when the moor was full of zons/barbs with 40 hex charms and white rings lol.
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Mar 28 2022 06:03pm
Quote (KimSulki84 @ Mar 28 2022 07:15pm)
What's your tweak on this if there's like no rules? Max strafe? Why is strafe not allowed over 1 pt??



Strafe is so strong up close that most gm rule sets rule it to 1 hard point :( the dmg difference of it maxed is around 500 dmg, but the arrows per volley goes up every like 4 pts
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Mar 28 2022 06:21pm
Quote (ceejay3 @ Mar 28 2022 05:03pm)
Strafe is so strong up close that most gm rule sets rule it to 1 hard point :( the dmg difference of it maxed is around 500 dmg, but the arrows per volley goes up every like 4 pts


gotcha. i didn't know you had a video of this on youtube. watching it right now sweeeeeet love your damn hair
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Mar 28 2022 06:44pm
ceejay, is 15/40 still better than 1515 in PTR with ed from skills? I finally got myself a Diadem 2/20/2. So happy right now but not sure if I want to put 15/40 or 1515. What's better?
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Mar 28 2022 07:13pm
Quote (KimSulki84 @ Mar 28 2022 08:44pm)
ceejay, is 15/40 still better than 1515 in PTR with ed from skills? I finally got myself a Diadem 2/20/2. So happy right now but not sure if I want to put 15/40 or 1515. What's better?



There’s no changes or notes that incline me to think that 15/15 will become better than 15/40 :) but I will say 15/15 really isn’t that bad.
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Quote (ceejay3 @ Mar 28 2022 06:13pm)
There’s no changes or notes that incline me to think that 15/15 will become better than 15/40 :) but I will say 15/15 really isn’t that bad.


I got both tiaras and did the comparison and 1515 was higher average dmg with enigma and mat faith for some reason. haha

Here's the comparison of using 3 15IAS/15Max Damage Jewels and 3 15IAS/40ED Jewels.

Equipped bow : Mat Faith 15/2/3 15ed

Multishot Numbers:
1245-4744 with 45IAS/45Max Damage (2994 average dmg)
1338-4587 with 45IAS/120Enhanced Damage (2962 average dmg)
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