Gotten myself the worst roll fortitude on a sacred armor for like an ohm, damn my merc is on fire now....

Can confirm a lot of what you have said in this guide. Extremely thorough and well put together. I have switched my gear around for the last 3 weeks or so on the barb and have currently settled on the following setup:
ebotd war pike
gbane (cannot be frozen > poopy wealth) great shout for a poor man who can't afford fort
CoT (haven't tried andy's for the IAS yet)
And my merc absolutely slaps the council w/ gavel amp. I didn't look in to all the specific merc break points to min / max the dps and killing the fastest, was just kinda testing things out by playing and seeing what works that way.

Also confirm the teleport charges. Had the ol IK helm double lem and swapped it out for a circlet I gambled with tele charges and no goldfind at all on it to test the difference. Way better to lose the goldfind and gain teleport charges than to just max out goldfind as much as possible. It not only makes your runs significantly faster, but it make them more enjoyable. Having your merc run around like a brainless chicken with it's head cut off is the most frustrating thing about this build. Tele fixes that instantly. Been running this set up for ~ 4 or 5 days now and the build is much more fun to play. Once I get a tele / gf ammy, will swap back to the IK helm until I find a GG item to replace it.

One question I have is: why do you place such a high importance on hitting 33 find item specifically? Lvl 33 is 56% chance to find item vs lvl 17 which is 50% chance. Is that 6% actually significant? I mean I guess there is always the argument of "well what else are you going to put your points in to? Not really many more meaningful skills to throw points at once you hit 80+." Just curious your thoughts on this specifically. I haven't respec'd my character yet as I'm waiting to buy a perm amulet instead of my current temp so I can get the right stat allocation when I respec. Had originally spec'd my char to use battle cry to reduce enemy dmg / defense and it unfortunately doesn't stack with amp damage when I ended up picking up gavel. So I presume when I respec, I will have a lot of free points to throw around (in to find item).

First: super glad to hear the build became more enjoyable, on top of being efficient. The playstyle's just fun, really.

And as far as Find Item, you got it. 6% extra loot adds up over time, since in this case it's not just "1% extra gold", but 1% of what you drop. And you drop 2000-2600% extra gold.

There's nowhere else to put relevant points, which is why I insist on it.

Think of Find Item as a flat multiplier over your base drops.

A 50% find item is 1.5x your loot.

Let's assume a council dropping 10k gold baseline, with no EG% or Find Item.

You have 2000% extra gold.
That council will drop 10k + 2000%*10k=210k

With Find Item at 50%, you take that sum & multiply it by 1.5

50% turns 210k into 315k on average
51% turns 210k into 317.1k on average
56% turns 210k into 327.6k on average

There's a 12.6k gold difference between both runs which, taken as a single instance, doesn't matter. But 10 runs make that a 126k difference. 100 runs makes it 1.26million difference, etc.

And that's not accounting for the extra item drops, which also benefit from this.

All that to say: yeah, 55% to 56% isn't much, but it's the same reason why people still shoot for 700%MF when they can. You'll be doing this run hundreds, thousands of times. And at that scale, 1% becomes significant.

It's interesting, too, because Find Item is binary. Either it works or it doesn't, which can make for long streaks of good or bad runs. It costs nothing to add success odds to this.

My current setup has 32 Find Item (+1 with Battle Command).

This post was edited by Exokek on Nov 6 2021 03:23pm

Absolutely love that build, thanks man! My first day farming with it and already grabbed 3 HRs!

WOW

I too have found a ton of HRs of the eth, thul tal variety

damn i legit just found a jah

Game gets rereleased and people rerelease guides.

Wouldn't have made this guide if there was any good guide on JSP, or even on YT.

All the stuff I read boiled down to "so ye boi put on wealth n leap n shit also fire res cap $$$$$$$ big money cash money tomb reaaaaaveeeer"

Disagree, uve been around since 2005.

Go check 2005 guides compared to 2011 compared to 2018

Plenty of changes happen, people theorycraft and find new things.


Your guide is great.