in an empty game holy shock pulses do a huge chunk of mobs HP... anything i post is in regards to a full game only.

hmmm, no.

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=73106423&f=87&p=493505387

tl;dr version




This post was edited by Marieusz on Aug 21 2015 03:06pm

p1 monster 1000 hp
p8 monster 4500hp (450% more

cb= 25% dmg

1000*25% = 250
4500* 25% = 1125

1125/250= 450% more

cb takes 25% of the p1 hp even in a 8 player game

This post was edited by Telefunken on Aug 21 2015 03:11pm

4%more phys against non demons, 40%more phys dmg agains demons

and also everything telef said that you ignored:




that's not how it works
E also 4500 from 1000 is 350%more, not 450%more

This post was edited by lilith0 on Aug 21 2015 03:14pm

and you ignore 50% crushing blow.

and yet again with this argument about how youll attack faster when decrep lol

dont forget that running native conviction allows the ability to use a reapers might merc greatly increasing the phy damage dealt, that alone is the most substantial argument against using LW and/or Dracs . Given that the avg phy res in hell is about 50%, your talking about doubling the physical damage dealt, and with grief or death that's far more pop then what dreams are adding. People keep talking about dreams as 7005 damage which is true as much of the time as its damage is 1. 3500 avg. Native conviction is -150 so you'd get double damage or 7K avg against a 50% resistant monster. Running fanat + conviction merc would mean you deal less physical damage then using the reapers merc, and would also suffer greatly on light damage dealt since you'd only be dropping the avg monster to -35 instead of -100.

This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Aug 21 2015 03:25pm

if you're not aware that you get decrep in cs and baalruns, i think you're a lost cause



i (actually, it's not me but well) compare it to other stuff and conclude that it's not as good.

Yknow, death is pretty good, it just happens that grief is a little better. Here, if you want, let's say death is as good as grief. the problem is you're the one posting this:


This post was edited by lilith0 on Aug 21 2015 03:29pm

Thx for all comments so far

I think all builds will work, and there are more builds wich can work imo

This post was edited by Klaasje123 on Aug 21 2015 04:25pm