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Dec 30 2011 01:41pm
@Azn You do realize Marvel was the best dueler to ever grace any realm right?

He was hands down top 5 on any and every class.
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Dec 30 2011 01:43pm
Quote (Sn4il @ Dec 30 2011 08:41pm)
@Azn You do realize Marvel was the best dueler to ever grace any realm right?

He was hands down top 5 on any and every class.


how can you say that without actually seeing people on other realms play ^

not saying anyone from euro ( or west ) is better than marvel, but you cant really know for sure...
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Dec 30 2011 01:43pm
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I agree it changes, which is why I think its silly for people to keep talking about players as benchmarks for today's pvp.

also I find it funny cause to me all these "gods" of the past are normal people to me, I guess cause I just got to know them through being on /f l
but lets be real here. if *anyone* does deserve credit as being a really exceptional player amongst the many many heroes of d2's cult history.. steve does deserve the props given to him by pretty much everyone.


on a side note, not do derail the topic too much but I wanna bring it up since you mentioned pvp evolving..
imho I think d2's metagame still can yet undergo many many changes, a lot left to discover in this game. but sadly I dont think it'll ever happen. the game is reaching the end of it's lifespan for quite a while now and its not really picking up any in terms of pvp population or interest in furthering this particular build's metagame, so I doubt it ever will.
there is a bit of growth in pvp tactics over the years, but not enough to push the boundaries sadly. =\ for the most part it remains much the same.


I miss the old fun times of 1v1ing random people for hours on end. Holy shit d2 pvp was fun.
We may never see a game like this again :/
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Dec 31 2011 01:47am
Quote (Sn4il @ Dec 30 2011 03:41pm)
@Azn You do realize Marvel was the best dueler to ever grace any realm right?
He was hands down top 5 on any and every class.


Quote (Jeebus666 @ Dec 30 2011 03:43pm)
how can you say that without actually seeing people on other realms play ^
not saying anyone from euro ( or west ) is better than marvel, but you cant really know for sure...


This is Marvel's recorded wins, in his profile:

Dueling:
d2pk
1st 1v1 World Class Tournament(bvc)
1st Amapk tournament
1st 1v1 tournament(trap)
1st 1v1 tournament(necro)
1st 1v1 tournament(necro)
1st 1v1 tournament(druid)
1st 1v1 tournament(druid)
1st 1v1 tournament(telerabie)
1st 2v2 tournament. (Thnk[6]/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (Thnk[6]/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (Thnk[6]/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (Thnk[6]/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (mike123/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (mike123/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (mike123/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (mike123/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (mike123/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (mike123/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (mike123/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (Fears/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (Jeet/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (Jeet/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (Kylev/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (Kylev/me)
1st 3v3 tournament. (mike123/Kylev/me)
1st 3v3 tournament. (mike123/Slate/me)
1st 3v3 tournament. (mike123/Slate/me)
1st 3v3 tournament. (Thnk[6]/Youri/me)
1st 3v3 tournament. (Thnk[6]/Youri/me)


1.10
1st D2jsp SvS ladder Undefeated
1st D2jsp SvS tournament
1st D2jsp NvN ladder Undefeated

1.11
1st D2jsp NvN ladder Undefeated

1.12
1st Snuffelupecus 20k 2v2 tournament. (me, Asura) 20k fg prize
1st Ancestors 2v2 tournament.(me, Asura)
1st D2jsp SvS ladder
1st D2jsp NvN ladder Undefeated
1st D2jsp AvA ladder Undefeated
1st D2jsp World ladder Undefeated


Most of this happened on d2pk, not d2jsp
And the above bolded seriously makes me question the credability of the people he was dueling on this d2pk server oO

I'm sure he was a great duelist
But Marvel is no exception
If he came to duel this ZvA build structure
He had better bring a Nec, Druid, or Asn

This post was edited by Habakkuk22 on Dec 31 2011 01:56am
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Dec 31 2011 07:56am
he had better bring a lort vs this
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Dec 31 2011 08:03am
Marvel quit before you spawned, you don't know anything lol.
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Dec 31 2011 08:11am
Quote (Sn4il @ Dec 31 2011 03:03pm)
Marvel quit before you spawned, you don't know anything lol.


and Newton died before Einstein's parents were born, yet somehow Einstein's equations work a lot better than Newton's.. :P

This post was edited by Jeebus666 on Dec 31 2011 08:11am
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Dec 31 2011 08:15am
Well the 20k fg 2v2 tourney win proves he is best on East.

West kids play D2PK as well, and he beat them too.

Euros suck.
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Dec 31 2011 08:21am
No man, Euro > East

Everyone knows Europe is the best continent in the whole world...I mean, you guys are already forced to speak our language
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Dec 31 2011 09:50am
Quote (Habakkuk22 @ 31 Dec 2011 01:47)
This is Marvel's recorded wins, in his profile:

Dueling:
d2pk
1st 1v1 World Class Tournament(bvc)
1st Amapk tournament
1st 1v1 tournament(trap)
1st 1v1 tournament(necro)
1st 1v1 tournament(necro)
1st 1v1 tournament(druid)
1st 1v1 tournament(druid)
1st 1v1 tournament(telerabie)
1st 2v2 tournament. (Thnk[6]/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (Thnk[6]/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (Thnk[6]/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (Thnk[6]/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (mike123/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (mike123/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (mike123/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (mike123/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (mike123/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (mike123/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (mike123/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (Fears/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (Jeet/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (Jeet/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (Kylev/me)
1st 2v2 tournament. (Kylev/me)
1st 3v3 tournament. (mike123/Kylev/me)
1st 3v3 tournament. (mike123/Slate/me)
1st 3v3 tournament. (mike123/Slate/me)
1st 3v3 tournament. (Thnk[6]/Youri/me)
1st 3v3 tournament. (Thnk[6]/Youri/me)


1.10
1st D2jsp SvS ladder Undefeated
1st D2jsp SvS tournament
1st D2jsp NvN ladder Undefeated

1.11
1st D2jsp NvN ladder Undefeated

1.12
1st Snuffelupecus 20k 2v2 tournament. (me, Asura) 20k fg prize
1st Ancestors 2v2 tournament.(me, Asura)
1st D2jsp SvS ladder
1st D2jsp NvN ladder Undefeated
1st D2jsp AvA ladder Undefeated
1st D2jsp World ladder Undefeated


Most of this happened on d2pk, not d2jsp
And the above bolded seriously makes me question the credability of the people he was dueling on this d2pk server oO

I'm sure he was a great duelist
But Marvel is no exception
If he came to duel this ZvA build structure
He had better bring a Nec, Druid, or Asn


D2pk had a more active pvp community that was at least somewhat informed of how to do things right than West and East combined at that time LOL.
The 1v1 tournaments weren't always something to brag about, but there was always great competition in the 2v2/3v3 tournaments. I can't say for sure who was in the tournament at that time.

This post was edited by young2093 on Dec 31 2011 09:52am
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