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Quote (mass_bnm @ Sun, Nov 12 2006, 01:06pm)
they say gz to guide,guide was ur idea

np they say gzz to u :-)

but...

ITS MY PIC^^

gz nice guilde.. but why grief? what is good in greif?

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Mar 28 2007 01:29am
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ok thx

liked this guide much more than the one sticked (which uses phönix - just a crap shield tongue.gif)


Agreed, the amounts of dex you gotta use to get max block is rediculous dry.gif You end up with what, 4k life at maximum?


Just for your guys information: When using Berserk Skill, it is NOT recommended that you have Max Block, so there is no point in wasting Dex to get it.
You only need Dex on a Berserk barb if using a Phase Blade!

Below is the effect of Berserk Skill taken from The Arreat Summit.

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Effect: A powerful attack that leaves the Barbarian more vulnerable.

Berserk completely converts damage to magic damage so you cannot steal life/mana with Berserk, even with life tap.
You don't take damage from Iron Maiden and Thorns if you just go "Berserk". Because they only reflect physical damage, not magical.
For the stated duration afterwards your defense is zero. You also do not receive the Iron Skin or Dexterity bonus. You can still block as if you are using a shield, however. [B]A defense of 0 will let you block all the time, thus quite often hinder you from doing anything else. Consider not wearing a shield[/B].


*Edited:
By the way, the firestorm on the Torch also interrupts your attack, so, would you get rid of your torch because of that? No!
Firestorm on torch 1/4 chance to cast.
Firestrom on Pheonix 1.05/3 chance to cast.


lol u still make me laugh :-D

the firestorm on torch doesn't give a delay on attack :-D
only the firestorm of phoenix does.
and if u would test all u would have known aswell
i don't know why,but no one fully understand blizzard strategy and gameplay ;-)

about block,that ur oppinion,just like mine,i've been making more cs barbs then u will ever do,and dex is nice to have in cs.
as a matter of fact if my currrent barb get lvl 99 ,i'll dex my new barb so i only got like 5.5k life left,so i prolly end up with 280 dex ;-)

and don't forget, this is PRO-CS-BARB
u never made one like this,so plz,don't give comment on something u never played ;-)
try to make cs in 45-53 secs,lets see if u can beat that ;-)
if u can,then u can post ur comment here
if u don't i'd like u to stfu ;-)


@ laca:
grief is best choice in my oppinion
400 more dmg,nn alot of ias to reach max frame(with phase blade),venom(even more dmg),deadly strike/ignore target defence/....

This post was edited by mass_bnm on Mar 28 2007 01:33am
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Mar 28 2007 04:46am
Quote (mass_bnm @ Wed, Mar 28 2007, 08:29pm)
lol u still make me laugh :-D

the firestorm on torch doesn't give a delay on attack :-D
only the firestorm of phoenix does.
and if u would test all u would have known aswell
i don't know why,but no one fully understand blizzard strategy and gameplay ;-)

about block,that ur oppinion,just like mine,i've been making more cs barbs then u will ever do,and dex is nice to have in cs.
as a matter of fact if my currrent barb get lvl 99 ,i'll dex my new barb so i only got like 5.5k life left,so i prolly end up with 280 dex ;-)

and don't forget, this is PRO-CS-BARB
u never made one like this,so plz,don't give comment on something u never played ;-)
try to make cs in 45-53 secs,lets see if u can beat that ;-)
if u can,then u can post ur comment here
if u don't i'd like u to stfu ;-)


@ laca:
grief is best choice in my oppinion
400 more dmg,nn alot of ias to reach max frame(with phase blade),venom(even more dmg),deadly strike/ignore target defence/....


MAN, wake up and smell the roses, i can disconnect 9 out of 10 game with my bowazon using windforce and torch in my inventory.

OF COURSE THE firestorm from the torch interrupts your attack and also can disconnect all players in the game.

And as for you saying YOU. have been making what?????, for fuck sake dude, i am over 40years old and been playing this game b4 you were a twinkle in your daddies eyes, so b4 you start ASSUMING fuckin shit, grow up, and realise that you are not the so called MIGHTY fn god to this game.

As for you not realising this, BUT, i have actually tested YOUR SO CALLED barb out, and guess what? JUST like mother nature called it, IT IS NOT, AS IN NOT my cup of tea, to many errors to just go along and tele into mass crowd, get BLOCKLOCKED, (cannot Howl, tele or whatever because FHR sucks major) and you die.
I have personally tested your Cs Barbar out, it is not to MY liking (as in i do not think, or play the game like you, so stfu about what YOU think that i should do).

anyway, i have personally made sure that ppl that enquire about my build (Demonbasher) and your build (CsBarbar) and ask them a simple question:
Do they prefer quick tele to seals and in Chaos Runs: if they answer YES, i post them the link to this guide., if NO, i inform them of this guide after Perusing my Demonbasher Guide.

I am not an asshole to think that my guide is better, I am the type of asshole that lets ppl play the FUCKEN GAME the way they like to.

SO END OF FUCKEN STORY, stop hassling me about FACTS & FIGURES that you do not seem to FUCKEN comprehend you dumb fucken 24yo
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Mar 28 2007 04:48am
Yo, don't argue with izParagonzi about PVM... he's bestest PVM.
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Yo, don't argue with izParagonzi about PVM... he's bestest PVM.


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Mar 28 2007 09:12am
This would a good character to try, and when/if you do public Chaos runs, you'll get a lot of, "OMG, Baba has IM and no die!! HAXXORZ," which would be pretty funny ^^
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Mar 28 2007 11:48am
izparagonzi

hmm
1. you guys are talking about FACTs... programmed stuffs... there is nothing to discuss about these are facts..
and there are facts , which make you barb best, coz it is programmed that way.. :S

firestorm from torch doesn´t break your attack :S it casts storm and thats what make the game crash.. so :S just get your wrong...

i didn´t want to arguee but well you should understand when your wrong..

in pvm time = exp , life = good and for cs barb dmg is important

slow tele costs time
low dmg costs time
and phoenix costs time, too coz of delay

simple it costs time = exp = stupid.
nothing to discuss about :S

and even if you hav 0 defense you still have maxblock... so its reasonable to stat dex for mb...

ty all others for feedback.
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Mar 28 2007 03:34pm
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izparagonzi

hmm
1. you guys are talking about FACTs... programmed stuffs... there is nothing to discuss about these are facts..
and there are facts , which make you barb best, coz it is programmed that way.. :S

firestorm from torch doesn´t break your attack :S it casts storm and thats what make the game crash.. so :S just get your wrong...

i didn´t want to arguee but well you should understand when your wrong..

in pvm time = exp , life = good and for cs barb dmg is important

slow tele costs time
low dmg costs time
and phoenix costs time, too coz of delay

simple it costs time = exp = stupid.
nothing to discuss about :S

and even if you hav 0 defense you still have maxblock... so its reasonable to stat dex for mb...

ty all others for feedback.


Fair points.
Now, when Firestorm is cast, it does interrupt attack, but does not interrupt you from moving, so where is the time delay??
The reason why i can vouch this, is Because i have made a Pheonix-azon Guide and was using Pheonix Gmb, and she could still run while all the firestorms
were being cast from strafe and 100% pierce while hitting monsters in the background.
Also using Pheonix Pally shield on my Fana/Vengeance Pally, i use zeal for crowd control.

Now before they fixed up the dupe method, this girl packed a whallop and was super fun, now she is useless thanks to the public dupe.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Mar 28 2007 03:36pm
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Quote (mass_bnm @ Wed, Mar 28 2007, 08:29pm)
lol u still make me laugh :-D

the firestorm on torch doesn't give a delay on attack :-D
only the firestorm of phoenix does.
and if u would test all u would have known aswell
i don't know why,but no one fully understand blizzard strategy and gameplay ;-)

about block,that ur oppinion,just like mine,i've been making more cs barbs then u will ever do,and dex is nice to have in cs.
as a matter of fact if my currrent barb get lvl 99 ,i'll dex my new barb so i only got like 5.5k life left,so i prolly end up with 280 dex ;-)

and don't forget, this is PRO-CS-BARB
u never made one like this,so plz,don't give comment on something u never played ;-)
try to make cs in 45-53 secs,lets see if u can beat that ;-)
if u can,then u can post ur comment here
if u don't i'd like u to stfu ;-)


@ laca:
grief is best choice in my oppinion
400 more dmg,nn alot of ias to reach max frame(with phase blade),venom(even more dmg),deadly strike/ignore target defence/....


MAN, wake up and smell the roses, i can disconnect 9 out of 10 game with my bowazon using windforce and torch in my inventory.

OF COURSE THE firestorm from the torch interrupts your attack and also can disconnect all players in the game.

And as for you saying YOU. have been making what?????, for fuck sake dude, i am over 40years old and been playing this game b4 you were a twinkle in your daddies eyes, so b4 you start ASSUMING fuckin shit, grow up, and realise that you are not the so called MIGHTY fn god to this game.

As for you not realising this, BUT, i have actually tested YOUR SO CALLED barb out, and guess what? JUST like mother nature called it, IT IS NOT, AS IN NOT my cup of tea, to many errors to just go along and tele into mass crowd, get BLOCKLOCKED, (cannot Howl, tele or whatever because FHR sucks major) and you die.
I have personally tested your Cs Barbar out, it is not to MY liking (as in i do not think, or play the game like you, so stfu about what YOU think that i should do).

anyway, i have personally made sure that ppl that enquire about my build (Demonbasher) and your build (CsBarbar) and ask them a simple question:
Do they prefer quick tele to seals and in Chaos Runs: if they answer YES, i post them the link to this guide., if NO, i inform them of this guide after Perusing my Demonbasher Guide.

I am not an asshole to think that my guide is better, I am the type of asshole that lets ppl play the FUCKEN GAME the way they like to.

SO END OF FUCKEN STORY, stop hassling me about FACTS & FIGURES that you do not seem to FUCKEN comprehend you dumb fucken 24yo


we don't ask for ur oppinion in this topic,but if u post here its our right to say what we think,and experienced.
ur 40,nice,i'm 28,so don't think ur the only adult playing this game ;-)
ofc, u need SKILL to play cs-barb,wich u obviously DO NOT HAVE!
this guide is made for PRO people who wanna make baalruns fun and cs with something else then a pally.
if ur an ASShole that lets ppl play the way they like to,WHAT ARE U POSTING HERE THEN FOR!
mb u should try to tele away with teleslot icon_pointr.gif spirit and get 55 extra fhr ;-)

to be continued bangin.gif
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Mar 29 2007 01:42pm
welll

i think it doesn´t bring a shit if you start to call each other stupid names wink.gif

The firestorm from phoenix interrupts and the from torch doesn´t.. if you play you will realise it.. i did :S
and the block lock in a crowed mass of minions .. well you shouldn´t tele in there wink.gif and there is never a reason to do so wink.gif. and i would always howl with tele slot, which got, like mass said 55 extra fhr , and thats even more than on your build smile.gif

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