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Nov 13 2010 03:41pm
Quote (MateDeVita @ Nov 14 2010 12:29am)
Depends on what you mean by that. If you mean what I think you mean (which is that skeletons will do ~4x as much damage), you're wrong.


well main question is: Are raise skeletons good for anything else than being meat shields?
And then, how much is skeletons damage difference with and without pride (on merc).

From arreat summit:
Level: -------- 16 - 17 - 18 - 19 - 20
Damage +%: 285 300 315 330 345

If skeleton does 100 dmg, will it be with aura like 300 ? In that case, it would be great boost. But i guess its not that simple?

Quote (MateDeVita @ Nov 14 2010 12:45am)
Skeletons have a lot of native %ED, and the concentration's boost will be based on their base damage. And keep in mind that conviction from infinity will make them hit a lot more with the -83 defense.
Play around with this calculator: http://tph.tuwien.ac.at/~gottwald/necro_pet_calculator.html


thanks for link! gotta check more info also about infinity :)

This post was edited by Makeez on Nov 13 2010 03:52pm
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Quote (Makeez @ 13 Nov 2010 22:41)
well main question is: Are raise skeletons good for anything else than being meat shields?
And then, how much is skeletons damage difference with and without pride (on merc).

From arreat summit:
Level: -------- 16 - 17 - 18 - 19 - 20   
Damage +%: 285 300 315 330 345

If skeleton does 100 dmg, will it be with aura like 300 ? In that case, it would be great boost. But i guess its not that simple?

Skeletons have a lot of native %ED, and the concentration's boost will be based on their base damage. And keep in mind that conviction from infinity will make them hit a lot more with the -83 defense.
Play around with this calculator: http://tph.tuwien.ac.at/~gottwald/necro_pet_calculator.html

This post was edited by MateDeVita on Nov 13 2010 03:46pm
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Nov 13 2010 05:27pm
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Nov 13 2010 06:50pm
Quote (Makeez @ Nov 13 2010 05:41pm)
well main question is: Are raise skeletons good for anything else than being meat shields?


r u a noob?

Skeletons are one of them most power skills in the game.

My skeletons summoner did like 65k dmg last ladder.

Just skeletons...

...yeah they're nothing but meat shields

This post was edited by Noob_Nova on Nov 13 2010 06:51pm
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Nov 14 2010 04:05am
Quote (Noob_Nova @ Nov 14 2010 03:50am)
r u a noob?

Skeletons are one of them most power skills in the game.

My skeletons summoner did like 65k dmg last ladder.

Just skeletons...

...yeah they're nothing but meat shields


I heard summoners main killers are ce and merc and I got linked in here.. so i totally got confused. And I didn't find satisfying answer in guide.. Skill selection and skeletons tele positions didn't help me out which are pretty much all information this guide tells about actual skeletons :>
anyway, MatDeVitas calculator link helped me out alot, skeletons can have good dmg :)

Still I'd like to know yours gear in last ladder since you had great skeletons. Pm gear for me? ty anyway.
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Nov 14 2010 05:59am
Quote (Noob_Nova @ Nov 14 2010 03:50am)
r u a noob?

Skeletons are one of them most power skills in the game.

My skeletons summoner did like 65k dmg last ladder.

Just skeletons...

...yeah they're nothing but meat shields


Calculate the damage using the pet calculator presented in prior posts instead of writing imaginative figures.
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Nov 14 2010 07:27am
Quote (Noob_Nova @ Nov 14 2010 02:50am)
r u a noob?

Skeletons are one of them most power skills in the game.

My skeletons summoner did like 65k dmg last ladder.

Just skeletons...

...yeah they're nothing but meat shields


skels 65k is about the maximum possible with amp assuming ~0% res enemy. however a merc, especially my mercmancer, can achieve 200k DPS with amp, so skels really arent that good
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Nov 14 2010 04:04pm
Quote (yaf @ Nov 14 2010 04:27pm)
skels 65k is about the maximum possible with amp assuming ~0% res enemy. however a merc, especially my mercmancer, can achieve200k DPS with amp, so skels really arent that good


okay, question here! (again? :D ) whatever the gear is, we are still using merc + skeletons.

SO what about total DPS, merc + skeletons!

Merc with infy(or something else) + skeletons Vs. merc with pride + skeletons (cause of pride skeletons have nearly 2x better dmg compared to another build ! ).
Merc dmg drops down, but skeletons dmg increases. Did i make my point clear? :)

And what comes to pet calculator, is that skeletons DPS for just one skeleton or total of all skeletons? i guess its total ? <_<
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Nov 15 2010 02:42am
It is all written in the mercenary selection section.
Apply the same calculations to the level and damage of your skeletons. (Skeleton level = CLevel)
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Nov 15 2010 02:43am
nice guide :)
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