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would be 4*um and 2*shael berseker axe any useful vs es sorces? :/


I have a vision; "waste of stash space, kind sir"... or something.


haha its just impossible to have all those items and add this ba which is pretty shitty imo,


i have enough room sad.gif
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would be 4*um and 2*shael berseker axe any useful vs es sorces? :/


I have a vision; "waste of stash space, kind sir"... or something.


haha its just impossible to have all those items and add this ba which is pretty shitty imo,


i have enough room sad.gif


i dont sad.gif
griffon+ guilaum takes to much space

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would be 4*um and 2*shael berseker axe any useful vs es sorces? :/


fury is better. that way you can actually kill them at 1 life unless they use massive damage reduced by x (in which case barbs cant kill them anyway).
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fury is better. that way you can actually kill them at 1 life unless they use massive damage reduced by x (in which case barbs cant kill them anyway).


Sure about that? The 4 um Ba gives u 100% ow alone. U dont need dracs or trangs to get the 100%. At least against cold socs that should be an advantage. Vs most opponents it doesnt matter cause u wear draculs and gores anyway but vs cold socs u need ravens and trangs so the dracs are missing, and if u use Res boots the gores are missing 2. I think against socs that BA would be > Fury.
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fury is better. that way you can actually kill them at 1 life unless they use massive damage reduced by x (in which case barbs cant kill them anyway).


Sure about that? The 4 um Ba gives u 100% ow alone. U dont need dracs or trangs to get the 100%. At least against cold socs that should be an advantage. Vs most opponents it doesnt matter cause u wear draculs and gores anyway but vs cold socs u need ravens and trangs so the dracs are missing, and if u use Res boots the gores are missing 2. I think against socs that BA would be > Fury.


No, with that shitty axe, you`ll do 0 dmg do max tk/es sorc meaning you won't be able to kill them at all
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i tested few setups vs blizz es sorcs and found that
1)griffon+draculs+2ravens u have 37fcr bp good ow -this setup was definatelly best
2) guillaum+ravens/no dracs = was ok but no ow hurts
2)ravens +arach+trangs+griffon= for 65 fcr = tbh it was very weak setup vs high es blizz sorc u need shitlout of wws to make dmg without ow i found this setup worst
vs 95es precasters i would just switch weapons to dooms until she has 1 or close to it(its because i dont have space for fury in stash)- griffon+dracs its 60/85 ow with good 35cb which helps some too ofc (to fhr lock es sorc sometimes )

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fury is better. that way you can actually kill them at 1 life unless they use massive damage reduced by x (in which case barbs cant kill them anyway).


Sure about that? The 4 um Ba gives u 100% ow alone. U dont need dracs or trangs to get the 100%. At least against cold socs that should be an advantage. Vs most opponents it doesnt matter cause u wear draculs and gores anyway but vs cold socs u need ravens and trangs so the dracs are missing, and if u use Res boots the gores are missing 2. I think against socs that BA would be > Fury.


thing is that you wont be able to finish them off unless you score a good hit with your secondary weapon (assuming you use a high dmg secondary such as grief). if you're going for low-dmg-high-ow i suggest dual um wizzies and grief+beast on switch. you dont get 100% ow from weapons alone but it doesn't matter since you tele at 8 fps and wont have any problems touching sorc enough times to get them to 1 life. the hard part is to finish them off with your switch (you lose fcr and res). play around and see what works for you. in the end i used grief+beast and/or doom-switch vs all sorcs.
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Quote (Moonlike @ Tue, Jan 2 2007, 10:21pm)
i tested few setups vs blizz es sorcs and found that
1)griffon+draculs+2ravens u have 37fcr bp good ow -this setup was definatelly best
2) guillaum+ravens/no dracs = was ok but no ow hurts
3)ravens +arach+trangs+griffon= for 65 fcr = tbh it was very weak setup vs high es blizz sorc u need shitlout of wws to make dmg without ow i found this setup worst
vs 95es precasters i would just switch weapons to dooms until she has 1 or close to it(its because i dont have space for fury in stash)- griffon+dracs its 60/85 ow with good 35cb which helps some too ofc (to fhr lock es sorc sometimes )


i found 3) useful vs a two very very good sorcs. i used dooms for 35% ow until low life then switched. since the sorcs were amazing players they didn't defwhore and 9 fps cast really helped to catch them (awesome teleporters). only having 35% ow is a bit annoying vs 95% es but it works if you land hits consistently which i found hard with 40% fcr. if they defwhore other setups are better (more ow and stack).
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