Quote (drt1245 @ Jul 11 2010 08:50pm)

I always hold down namelock kick as barbs whirl away.

Quote (Ziecheik @ Jul 11 2010 12:51pm)

then play a pure trapper.

and yes whirl is useful vs bvcs, they have to balance dr/tgods and do not have block, when whirl becomes a threat to them (not in that they are outwhirled, but just enough of a threat for them to respect that they could take some damage in a whirl trade) a lot more defensive/trapping tactics start to be more viable. If you think otherwise you have not used a gclaw sin with high enough claw damage, which is again a 65fcr build. look up bui's guide and try it out at some point.
if its a bva with maxblock ss, then yeah just duel as a pure trapper. also kicking barbs on c/c is a horrible idea if the barb has any type of reflexes. much better to try getting an unanswered whirl hit if you can sneak it in as he wsg spams away.

Quote (Bryant @ Jul 11 2010 04:52pm)

OMG STOP WITH SRS RESPONSE LET HIM KICK BARBARS IN FACE IF HE WANTS TO.

Quote (Ziecheik @ 11 Jul 2010 23:51)

then play a pure trapper.

and yes whirl is useful vs bvcs, they have to balance dr/tgods and do not have block, when whirl becomes a threat to them (not in that they are outwhirled, but just enough of a threat for them to respect that they could take some damage in a whirl trade) a lot more defensive/trapping tactics start to be more viable. If you think otherwise you have not used a gclaw sin with high enough claw damage, which is again a 65fcr build. look up bui's guide and try it out at some point.
if its a bva with maxblock ss, then yeah just duel as a pure trapper. also kicking barbs on c/c is a horrible idea if the barb has any type of reflexes. much better to try getting an unanswered whirl hit if you can sneak it in as he wsg spams away.

Quote (tudey @ Jul 11 2010 12:53pm)

he hasnt used a gclaw sin probably becouse there are no gclaws in europe^^

Quote (tudey @ Jul 11 2010 04:53pm)

he hasnt used a gclaw sin probably becouse there are no gclaws in europe^^

Quote (Ziecheik @ Jul 11 2010 08:51pm)

then play a pure trapper.

and yes whirl is useful vs bvcs, they have to balance dr/tgods and do not have block, when whirl becomes a threat to them (not in that they are outwhirled, but just enough of a threat for them to respect that they could take some damage in a whirl trade) a lot more defensive/trapping tactics start to be more viable. If you think otherwise you have not used a gclaw sin with high enough claw damage, which is again a 65fcr build. look up bui's guide and try it out at some point.
if its a bva with maxblock ss, then yeah just duel as a pure trapper. also kicking barbs on c/c is a horrible idea if the barb has any type of reflexes. much better to try getting an unanswered whirl hit if you can sneak it in as he wsg spams away.

Quote (drt1245 @ Jul 11 2010 08:54pm)

I think he's talking about d2pk. Using east gclaw on a hybrid is really, really dumb, IMO.

Quote (harg @ Jul 11 2010 04:54pm)

it is not if you choose the good moment, you just kick one time and tele back=> ow + self desynchr for him (and i perfectly know wat about im talking^^)

and y ww is useless vs barb with an trap based hybsin, maybe not on a build with more dmg ww and less dmg trap

but a trap based hybsin who is not using ww will be better vs baba than an not trap based hybsin using ww imho

Quote (harg @ Jul 11 2010 04:54pm)

im not

Quote (drt1245 @ Jul 11 2010 08:56pm)

I understand English isn't your first language, but that's awful.




Wasn't talking about you, idiot.

Quote (harg @ 11 Jul 2010 23:54)

it is not if you choose the good moment, you just kick one time and tele back=> ow + self desynchr for him (and i perfectly know wat about im talking^^)

and y ww is useless vs barb with an trap based hybsin, maybe not on a build with more dmg ww and less dmg trap

but a trap based hybsin who is not using ww will be better vs baba than an not trap based hybsin using ww imho



im not