Quote (Serdra @ Fri, Jul 31 2009, 11:35pm)

I like andy's, It looks scary!

Quote (WhiteReflection @ Sat, Aug 1 2009, 12:07am)

Tbh, if you want that +2 skill that bad,  you might as well use shako and make yourself look like a real farmer. But don't forget to get yourself a life leech ring.

Quote (Serdra @ Sat, Aug 1 2009, 05:09am)

Shako is awful for bowa silly gooseling

Quote (WhiteReflection @ Sat, Aug 1 2009, 12:55am)

You can get life leech from a ring (you should be using a rare ring anyways), and 1XX life / mana + 10% DR on shako > 30 str from Andy.

On top of that Shako has 50% MF.

Quote (WhiteReflection @ Sat, Aug 1 2009, 03:09pm)

Debate over Fort vs 60/160 armor after my test:

Pros:
1. Fort has much higher defense (1500+ if you get archon) / chilling armor (defense bonus + absorb projectiles etc) / 25+ resist all.
2. Unless you get 100% p uncommon armor type fort (like wirefleece etc), it's much cheaper than a jeweler's armor of whale. 25+ resist all can probably save you some fg on charms etc.
3. Fort gives 140% bonus ED which is around 600 extra damage on hit.

Cons:
1. Jeweler's armor gives more life after Bo. (The life/lvl thing from Fort is not bo-able)
2. You lose the 8 frame multie shot IAS bp so your damage output becames 89% of what you used to do. Even if you count the extra 600 bonus damage from Fort, you still end up doing a bit less damage. Strafe is affected for sure but it's not that obvious and hard to calculate.

Conclusion: Using fort is definitely a viable/cheaper build , which I will probably include in the revision.

And no no to Andys, ugly ass helm.

Quote (izParagonzi @ Sat, Aug 1 2009, 07:21pm)

I think I am misreading the Cons... you say that with fort on... you do less damage because you are 9fps instead of 8fps?

Quote (WhiteReflection @ Sat, 1 Aug 2009, 20:00)

With Fort you shoot 0.89 times slower, doing ~8% extra damage or so. So yeah you end up doing less damage with multie. I can't really tell how 100 IAS vs 150 IAS affect strafe without some crazy calculations.