werry nice guide, ty for taking the time to write it

could u poste all the stats on BB and what it usually cost?

Yeah sure, no problem, glad ppl appreciate it

Since I've been quite inactive on the trade market lately I have no clue of the current price, you must find out that yourself. Here is the stats of BB anyway:



This post was edited by --TheJesus-- on Jun 23 2006 03:52am

How do you handle defensive south-walking/running bonespirit spamming necros, who occasionally tele 5 screens away into "hammer-free-spots" ? I even use delayed vigor namelocks, and jump on him from 3 screens away, but his south-walking/running seems to nullify my chances of hitting him, since he is only vulnerable when he casts.

And I don't have grief in stash.

This post was edited by x0r on Jun 23 2006 06:21am

Find a pattern and duel thereby. Met quite a few such necs as youi describe and they are not a big concern.

loving this guide lol vic xD , why do people even question it lol , its 100% perfect imo , gotta remake hammer now u fucker

t.t

Hdins have over 4 blindspots if memory serves correct. Underneath, slightly to the left, upper right, far right. Those are the 4 that come to mind right now.

Think about this, you tele. Don't charge, correct? Any smart nec, will throw a train of spirits at you and wait for you to tele on them. As soon as this happens, they walk right under you into your blindspot and throw 1 spear at you to catch your fhr long enough for the spirits to dismantle your life in basically no time. Remember, while doing this your still casting hammers. I highly doubt your reactions are that good to double tele like that.

Vs druids, you stated a totally defensive strategy. If you disagree with that, you are just plain dumb.

You forgot to mention about any decent charging hdin who cant literally charge right into your blindspot and kill you before you realize it. Blah blah "I don't die to desynch hdins blah blah" "I can read them like a book blah blah". That's a lie. You have most likely dueled hdins who always come from the same place. Smart desynching hdin will come from 3-4 different angles. Also, they will charge away spamming hammers and wait for the opportunity to catch YOU offguard.

Btw, that belt. Is just plain unfair. ISO: That on east.

I charge 99% of the fight. I charge near the necro, namelock him with vigor (wait for surprise attack) or desynch hammer him, but the defensive necro I am talking about has nerves like a two pound dog, he will tele to an area far away if he suspects any desynched hammerfields.

Think about this, you tele. Don't charge correct?

Read guide, you obviously haven't. I've never said I was a teleport hammer only, how many times do i need to repeat myself in this thread? I'm a teleport hammer as main offense, but combine that with charges depending on situation. Period

Vs druids, you stated a totally defensive strategy. If you disagree with that, you are just plain dumb.

As i said There is not a chance in hell you beat a godly druid player by beeing the one to maintain offensive play. And the strategy presented in guide is not a "defensive" strategy at all. It's only a strategy to make him loose his wolfs and then switch to offensive playstyle. Even if you think it's a defensive strategy, so what? Vs a godly Ele druid = the only char, where you actually have to be more defensive then offensive. Enough said.

"I can read them like a book blah blah". That's a lie. You have most likely dueled hdins who always come from the same place.

Plz pal, don't talk to me as if I were a noob. I've duelled all the top charge hammers at Eu Realm and I've beaten all I've encountered. As I said they are not hard at all to read but ofc you must pay attention and be careful since the dmg of hammers are huge (which i also state in the guide, normal-hard-very hard depending on situation/player) I can honestly tell you I've never died from a (vigor+charge) hammer in 8-9 months by their own actions. If I die, I die of own mistake. In HvH 1 mistake can be fatal, but to read a vigor+charge hammer has never been a prob for me. No further comment.

Finally plz don't try to convert me into your level. If you find problems with certain chars such as necs and chargers that's your dilemma, not mine. I don't share your thougths and strategies whatsoever, If you don't believe anything I say or think i talk BS, I suggest you make a nec and we will see how many frags you get. Cheers

**Also the strategy presented in the duel section = ppl seem to take them word for word. These strategies are just a small fraction of all the strategies to use vs certain characters. Many other are available but since I diden't want to write a small book about it I left only the most reliable duel strategies at hand.**

This post was edited by --TheJesus-- on Jun 24 2006 03:37am

Thanks for the nice words. Well i don't know, some ppl find it fun to find some kind of error just to tease others :> But it's ok, it's fun

This post was edited by --TheJesus-- on Jun 24 2006 03:42am

Unfair for who? If you are playing in NL this is the belt every dueller use since it's far better then Verdungo as option for NL players and currently the best belt of all, no competition (not said verdungo is bad at all, and it works great in ladder with the same build). This is a build written for NL duelers (in first hand) and therefore also a build that includes the best items available at this specific realm. I don't see the relevance or purpose in this statement of yours at all.
Just a futile attempt trying to find errors just for the sake of it.

This post was edited by --TheJesus-- on Jun 24 2006 04:01am