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Quote (Ling203 @ Thu, Aug 14 2008, 10:03pm)
O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,
Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you.


sounds gay...but i still really like the guide....sticky this mess
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Quote (Ling203 @ Fri, Aug 15 2008, 12:03am)
O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,
Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you.


Great book.
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Aug 15 2008 08:02am
wait, the Ian Banks book, or the Eliot poem?

also, Fal Gavel is hilarious vs autotp chars
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Quote (Smart_Player @ Fri, 8 Aug 2008, 11:09)
Could 2 x Lacerator be measured with Widowmaker?

Hmm!?
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GG guide man you put a lot of work into this real gg
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Quote (Smart_Player @ Fri, Aug 15 2008, 10:22am)
Hmm!?


Quote (Ling203 @ Mon, Aug 11 2008, 04:08am)
I doubt it. The ability of guided arrow to ignore defense is pretty important to its damaging ability.

However, I could see a 1pt double throw barb using lac's being quite effective. Loss of +3 bo, but you gain a ranged attack that's decent (but worse than widow) and the ability to amp. Could do well vs hammerdins or really defensive smiters.

Honestly, try it on your own and see how it works out, though I'm pretty sure playing a "vanilla" BvC with Widow will probably be more effective.
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Quote (Ling203 @ Fri, Aug 15 2008, 10:02am)
wait, the Ian Banks book, or the Eliot poem?

also, Fal Gavel is hilarious vs autotp chars


Ah the Ian Banks book, I'm not really one for poetry wink.gif
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Quote (Ling203 @ Mon, 11 Aug 2008, 11:08)
I doubt it. The ability of guided arrow to ignore defense is pretty important to its damaging ability.

However, I could see a 1pt double throw barb using lac's being quite effective. Loss of +3 bo, but you gain a ranged attack that's decent (but worse than widow) and the ability to amp. Could do well vs hammerdins or really defensive smiters.

Honestly, try it on your own and see how it works out, though I'm pretty sure playing a "vanilla" BvC with Widow will probably be more effective.

Thanks for the consultation , @Ling203 !
The "Why" I would Put On 2 Lacerators instead of Widowmaker & Arrows is:
1.I hate when I get Attacked while I am Holding Widowmaker - I Can't WW Away - and Most likely it Leads to My Death!
2.With 2 Lacerators I Will Be Attacking Much Faster! The Chances for Amplify Damage Curse and Open Wounds Come At Price as well!
Weighty , eh!? smile.gif

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i don't think you're doing it right if you're getting attacked with widow.

1. you're supposed to switch, fire off 1-3 arrows, then switch back to grief/beast. and only do that when the enemy is offscreen, running away, or you're absolutely positive they can't attack.

2. lac has crappy range. i'm not sure if the axe mastery applies to melee with lac (i don't think so). I haven't tried it.

Tell me what you want to use the lac for (what chartypes)
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Quote (Ling203 @ Sun, 17 Aug 2008, 06:37)
i don't think you're doing it right if you're getting attacked with widow.

1. you're supposed to switch, fire off 1-3 arrows, then switch back to grief/beast. and only do that when the enemy is offscreen, running away, or you're absolutely positive they can't attack.

2. lac has crappy range. i'm not sure if the axe mastery applies to melee with lac (i don't think so). I haven't tried it.

Tell me what you want to use the lac for (what chartypes)

1.Well but you can always be surpriced , also it's good to Attack Ranged to Defwhoring Opponents & it's just Perfect to have the Ability to WW with them!
2.True - The Projectiles Disappear Near the End of your Visibility! Chances for Amplify Damage Curse & Open Wounds Make Up for Double Throwing with Them Isn't Guided and Isn't Undefendable! They say Axe Mastery applies to Lacerator(s) when Close-Quarter Melee Attacking (WW , Frenzy etc.)

P.S.: I have some very special Hybrid BvC or how I have fully named him - Ranged Frenzied Singing Whirlwind Leapbarian! What matches with other BvCs is the Maxed WW , Maxed Leap , Maxed BO As Well (Shout at last) ! What Doesn't Match is Maxed Double Swing (allright - if you don't get it - It Gives More Damage to Frenzy if you have Maxed Frenzy itself and it Gives More Damage to Double Throw cause Double Throw Increasing - only Increases Attack Rating so it Deserves only 1 point) , 1 into Axe Mastery (Lack of Skill Points + the Difference between 1 point and Maxed Isn't Huge) , 1 into Throwing Mastery (Lack of Skill Points + the Difference between 1 point and Maxed Isn't Huge) , 1 into Increased Speed , 1 into Natural Resistance , 1 into Warcry (For Stun in PvM Mostly) , 1 into Grim Ward (for Frightening in PvM only maybe and for it's wealthgiving Prerequisities) ! His Universal Gear is: CoA (when I get 2 sock perf CoA - Ber Lo) , Grief & Doom / 2 x Lacerator on Swap , Eni BP (godly look) , TG , Dracs , Hots , Mara , Raven (max dex :-) - only have to get 20 atr btorch & anni to Remake him) , Rare FCR ring (hit 12th Frame FCR-Tele + some extras) , btorch , anni , (will have WC Skillars for Ultimate BO [Very High Life & Mana for him and for others as well] & for 4 Sec Stun of Warcry And Res/Something Small Charms Below) ! Statting is as usual - Str for Gear , Dex for Gear , Vita - All Rest , Energy - Base !
I love him (being overstatted and not having all planned gear - he has pub productiveness [killing success] 4/6 and I hope for 5/6 when Remade) !
You like him?

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